Utawarerumono: Itsuwari no Kamen - Episode 5 Discussion / Poll

[GDB]

Really don't care for this new blue haired princess. There's like no emotion or fluctuation in her tone/voice at all.

[Tenzen12]

Originally Posted by ReddyRedWolf

Haku has a point. Kuon how can you spend everything without saving any for income?! Does that mean money means nothing to you or are you secretly rich that this is just change to you?

Cause when you said you understand the runaway I think you are telling about yourself.

Well she had enough money to give Haku allowance, so I guess they have enough reserves at least.

[DragoonKain3]

I'm not bored of this series even though nothing really happens, and it seems just setting up your usual harem without osananajimi? So tell me why can't I stop watching this?

Seriously, I have no idea. Like Taneda Risa is a reason why, but I didn't stay for Gate just for her, as an example. Something about the art, the music, how Mr General is the best bro, or how Haku/Kuon dynamic is so different from your usual MC/heroine relationship? I'm not sure, but I feel as if the whole show is simply better than the sum of its parts.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Tenzen12

Well she had enough money to give Haku allowance, so I guess they have enough reserves at least.

Well she is apparently a successful merchant. The money she gave him doesn't necessarily come from the money recieved for the secret mission.

Moreover she probably also reieved some for the princess escort.

Or it was simply the money she got for Haku repairing the water mill.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

I'm not bored of this series even though nothing really happens, and it seems just setting up your usual harem without osananajimi? So tell me why can't I stop watching this?

Seriously, I have no idea. Like Taneda Risa is a reason why, but I didn't stay for Gate just for her, as an example. Something about the art, the music, how Mr General is the best bro, or how Haku/Kuon dynamic is so different from your usual MC/heroine relationship? I'm not sure, but I feel as if the whole show is simply better than the sum of its parts.

Yeah, without a childhood friend I'm quite impressed you are hanging around for this one . Definitely says something good about the show.

It may just be the overall combination of the various factors just works really well here. All the parts you listed are reasons why I'm really getting behind this. While I'm feeling a bit of impatience, overall the show itself is still going strong.

[Tenzen12]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Well she is apparently a successful merchant. The money she gave him doesn't necessarily come from the money recieved for the secret mission.

Moreover she probably also reieved some for the princess escort.

Or it was simply the money she got for Haku repairing the water mill.

Well, it doesn't matter where exactly these money are from. Point is that regardless whether she spend "all money" she received or not, she still has enough for times when it's needed.

[Anh_Minh]

She gave Haku pocket change. It doesn't exactly prove anything.

[Tenzen12]

It proves she has money.

[Saravis4]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I'm kind of surprised that things haven't really blown up into anything yet. Certainly taking a slower approach of building unlike the first season. Heck I'm starting to wonder if more than Haku's simple life in the capital is going to happen here .

There's a major difference between this story and the first one. The first one was a process of escalation, starting out with a revolt in a backwater village, slowly growing to a full takeover of an empire, and then capping off with having to defend that Empire. In this story, the Empire has grown even more, there's no backwater revolt and no build up to taking over the Empire. So all that's left, for conflict, is to defend it, which means if there's going to be conflict, it'll likely be more focused than in the first one.

[Cicili]

I'm ok with slow. Because in my eyes, the original was very slow too. The pacing for both seasons of Utarerumono has always been quite out of the norm for me.

There were a few times in the first season which i felt nothing really spectacular happened so i dropped it, only to pick it up a few months later. I took me a year or two to finish the first one. I'd say in the end it was worth it though.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Saravis4

In this story, the Empire has grown even more, there's no backwater revolt and no build up to taking over the Empire. So all that's left, for conflict, is to defend it, which means if there's going to be conflict, it'll likely be more focused than in the first one.

Just for the record, we aren't in the empire from the first series. This is a completely different region.

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by Saravis4

There's a major difference between this story and the first one. The first one was a process of escalation, starting out with a revolt in a backwater village, slowly growing to a full takeover of an empire, and then capping off with having to defend that Empire. In this story, the Empire has grown even more, there's no backwater revolt and no build up to taking over the Empire. So all that's left, for conflict, is to defend it, which means if there's going to be conflict, it'll likely be more focused than in the first one.

Yeah, certainly they are going at it from a different point. I didn't mind the original build up. Just a progressively bigger series of conflicts until the conclusion. That was honestly a good fun time.

While this is a different Empire, the point still holds up. The focus may honestly be on one massive conflict that will span the series and that's why they are focusing more on setting things up, introducing a large cast, all before anything really pressing happens. Obviously there was some events of note in the first few episodes, but nothing empire level.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

While this is a different Empire, the point still holds up. The focus may honestly be on one massive conflict that will span the series and that's why they are focusing more on setting things up, introducing a large cast, all before anything really pressing happens. Obviously there was some events of note in the first few episodes, but nothing empire level.

For your guess, you may need to check what are they trying to build up. These 2 episodes have been pretty much about setting up Haku and Kuon to work under Oshutoru as agent, and adding new characters to the main cast, while Haku is sort of under training?

This sounds like preparing for conflict, but Oshutoru also told them to expect conflict so it's part of their job. It's peaceful in the capital with Oshutoru working on both official and behind shadow to bring peace, and the main cast are pretty much enjoying themselves. With such peaceful background and subtle changes, you'll need to guess what kind of conflict is to be expected, and what is missing before it starts.

By the way, I really apprieciate the anime hinting on passing of time with Haku's studying scenes. In the first run of the night time studying scene we already have Haku complaining: "Why does such life continues?", and shifting studying subjects from what Kuon can teach to assignments from Nekone. I wonder how long did it take Haku to have a day off

[~Yami~]

Rushed 5 episodes in one day
As someone who didn't watch previous series, I recognize this anime as whole new series although there are a lot of foreshadowing about the past

waifu waifu everywhere... just kidding... Kuon is the true waifu
so far, I don't see any plot but I don't quite agree if this episode is the weakest one
I enjoy the "date" scene though.. blushing nekomimi-girl is always cute, right?

I don't know which direction this anime would go to... is it about killing "giant centipede"? or trying to solve the mystery behind "giant curse blob"? or is it about war between countries?
For now, I think the safest approach is to just enjoy the development of relationship between Haku and Kuon while waiting for his past to be revealed
and also enjoy the onsen scene... there are so many onsen scenes!!!

and also, to be honest, soon it is time for Haku to handle the money instead of letting Kuon take all of it

[Cicili]

Yeah, probably best to go into this one without any preconceived notions.

What i'd seen from some anime bloggers (eh hem RandomC). Is that, they haven't seen the original but thought the original was some kind of super epic work with a 10/10 story, anime of the year material or something. So they kinda set themselves up to be let down.

[thundrakkon]

This is indeed getting strange. Why are 2 princesses not staying in the palace, but are instead, staying in an inn? On top of that, why is the General of the Right staying in an inn as well instead of staying at his residence?

As for the end of the last episode, it looks like the Emperor was waiting for Haku to arrive before the end of his centuries old life. I can kind of guess what that could mean. Which makes me wonder about something....

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Originally Posted by ~Yami~

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That was answered in the first series, so I'm not sure if they will bring that up again.

[sona-nyl]

Originally Posted by thundrakkon

This is indeed getting strange. Why are 2 princesses not staying in the palace, but are instead, staying in an inn? On top of that, why is the General of the Right staying in an inn as well instead of staying at his residence?

The palace is for the emperor, Rurutie and Atui are princesses of two of the vassal states Yamato consists of so they're not nearly as important. Being a princess in the Utawarerumono universe doesn't necessarily mean that you live especially luxuriously. Rurutie for example as shown in ep 3 is used to cooking. They probably have some sort of palaces at home though but not anything like the imperial palace.

And Oshutoru and Nekone aren't staying over at the Hakuroukaku they just come over during the day.

[Alf]

And actually staying in that inn is kind of luxurious already. As Haku said they could have chosen a less expensive place. Also, Atui is still escaping from home. There is another reason for Rurutie to stay with them in the game though......

[thundrakkon]

Ah ok. I didn't understand the structure of their set-up. It makes more sense now, thanks. The thing that threw me off was when Atui said she was returning to the palace. That would indicate that it was in the palace at the capital. It wouldn't make sense if the palace was at some far away location.

[Alf]

That's perhaps a translation problem. She was actually saying returning to her room