[Manga] If you could change anything about Naruto...what would it be???

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by GreyZone

Of course if Sakura was commiting domestic violence against Naruto, that would just be "played for laughs".

2 words: double standards.


I can see though why Konohamaru was so angry at Bolt. He saw his embarrassing younger self in him.

Kushina nailed Naruto in the head as well when they met

[Romanticide]

That's the tsundere type, done when a dude is being a dumbass. What Sasuke did was not tsundere.

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by Romanticide

That's the tsundere type, done when a dude is being a dumbass. What Sasuke did was not tsundere.

So when "it's an archtype" then it's OK. I get it.

[Luminer Astartes]

If I were to change things in Naruto, my changes would need to be pretty drastic.

Spoiler for 1st:

For one, I'd have made Yahiko (Tendou Pain) to be Naruto's father and either kept Kushina as his mother or gave the position to Konan. Nagato would have been the jealous one that killed Yahiko and enslaved him as Tendou Pain while Konan was forced to cooperate. Mostly to avoid the most obvious reveal in Minato being his father. It isn't that I didn't like Naruto's parents (I adore them), but I felt it'd have been an incredible drama if Naruto's own father (body at least) was what destroyed Konoha.

Spoiler for 2nd:

Speaking of Pain. Since I'd have made Nagato much more villainous, he wouldn't pull off the mass revival. Sure, lots of characters would end up dead but at least that would be a bit more of an impact. It'd make Konoha struggle a bit too as the war happens not soon after (happening right in their territory) and they cannot really afford to fight on such a massive scale. But no fretting because...

Spoiler for 3rd and 4th:

Going back a bit further, I always felt it was a shame that the 9 jinchuuriki were neglected so. So instead of chasing Sasuke all the time, Naruto made his priority to try and rescue/protect the other hosts (sans Killer B) after realizing how close he got to losing Gaara. This was you get to explore the other villages and their customs, introducing the residents and Kages. It would allow Naruto to get their cooperation and friendship so when the war begins on Konoha soil, the Alliance has a bit of a smoother transition. The 10-tails can be summoned once we have all the 9 hosts present in one place.

Lastly, Tobi would have been Izuna. Not Obito. I really didn't like Obito as the villain and he was not an effective one at all. Izuna would have been a bit more fun with the twist being that Madara really wasn't the kind of bitter man we saw here. Izuna just assumed his identity and used magic drugs to last so long.

Smaller tidbits:
-Naruto befriends Kurama at the Pain fight when Hinata is thought dead. Achieving the 1st chakra mode there.
-Orochimaru would have stayed dead after the Sasuke vs. Itachi fight.
-Sasuke would be on the opposing side of the war during it's final stages.

[lordstarkiller]

If I could change anything hmm

Spoiler:

I would have Sasuke kill the village elder's before heading into the war. Why the hell are they still alive?

[Romanticide]

Originally Posted by GreyZone

So when "it's an archtype" then it's OK. I get it.

No, you just don't understand. Tsundere's are for comic relief and almost always women. Sasuke acted nothing like a tsundere, he actually tried to hurt and kill people.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Romanticide

No, you just don't understand. Tsundere's are for comic relief and almost always women. Sasuke acted nothing like a tsundere, he actually tried to hurt and kill people.

abuse is abuse. It doesn't matter if it is for comedy or not. That you would make a distinction is sad

[Akashin]

Originally Posted by Romanticide

No, you just don't understand. Tsundere's are for comic relief and almost always women. Sasuke acted nothing like a tsundere, he actually tried to hurt and kill people.

...I thought we were talking about Naruto and Bolt... What does anything Sasuke did have in common with tsundere abuse, and why are we comparing them?

Am I completely missing something here?

Edit: Regardless of who we're talking about, though, let me get your stance on this straight: If a guy is being a dumbass and a girl violently disciplines him for it, that's comic relief and a-okay. If a guy is being a dumbass and another guy violently disciplines him for it, that's child abuse. Do I have it more or less?

[Mikethemaster]

Originally Posted by Romanticide

That's the tsundere type, done when a dude is being a dumbass. What Sasuke did was not tsundere.

So kushina can knock Naruto across the head but Naruto can't knock his own kid across the head. that really double standard.

[kagato3]

So people are up in arms about Naruto hitting his kid fairly lighty who was planning on atacking him with a weapon yet no one has a problem with the fact that all the parents are sending their children to a school to become child soldiers?

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by kagato3

So people are up in arms about Naruto hitting his kid fairly lighty who was planning on atacking him with a weapon yet no one has a problem with the fact that all the parents are sending their children to a school to become child soldiers?

Now that is a perspective I had not looked at it from yet. THIS!!!

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by kagato3

So people are up in arms about Naruto hitting his kid fairly lighty who was planning on atacking him with a weapon yet no one has a problem with the fact that all the parents are sending their children to a school to become child soldiers?

That is a very good point

[RBomber]

@kagato3: As someone on TVTropes pointed out, ninja school is less military academy and more like Xavier's School For The Gifted. Especially with (supposedly) long-standing peace between all villages. And if you think hard enough, almost every jutsu can be modified for peacetime purpose.

(Maybe) the only thing that I would change is everyone's hairstyle. Maybe by making everyone sport conservative hairstyle, if only just to make Gaara looks less ridiculous.

[kagato3]

Originally Posted by RBomber

@kagato3: As someone on TVTropes pointed out, ninja school is less military academy and more like Xavier's School For The Gifted. Especially with (supposedly) long-standing peace between all villages. And if you think hard enough, almost every jutsu can be modified for peacetime purpose.

(Maybe) the only thing that I would change is everyone's hairstyle. Maybe by making everyone sport conservative hairstyle, if only just to make Gaara looks less ridiculous.

My point is it is wholesale child endangerment if looked at from a real world prospective, and dear god so is Xavier's, but it isn't the real world, so it is pointless and hypocritical to try to try to apply real world ethics to only one part of the story.

[Shinagami]

Originally Posted by RBomber

@kagato3: As someone on TVTropes pointed out, ninja school is less military academy and more like Xavier's School For The Gifted. Especially with (supposedly) long-standing peace between all villages. And if you think hard enough, almost every jutsu can be modified for peacetime purpose.

(Maybe) the only thing that I would change is everyone's hairstyle. Maybe by making everyone sport conservative hairstyle, if only just to make Gaara looks less ridiculous.

I think that's a bad comparison Naruto part 1 was set in a relatively "peaceful" time but there were always dangerous missions and situations e.g Zabuza and Haku. Most of the kids at Xaviers place are orphans and outscasts, the academy is place where parents actually send their kids to be "soldiers" heck even the chunnin exams are deadly are we forgetting people died during those things. Even in these peaceful times there will always be guys like Zabuza and such that's why the academy stayed open.( In case we are forgeting something ninjas actually KILL people e.g Kakashi and Itachi who were killing people when they were just KIDS.) So I don't know why they would be converting their justus for peace purposes even in the real world most countries aren't at war at the moment but its not like they are converting their armies for peace they just continue training preparing for the worst. Plus I don't know how you could convert rasengan for peacful times? Maybe he could use it for entertainment or power a chakrae genertor

[zeorme]

I always thought Anime or Cartoon violence can either be comedic or serious depending on the tone of the situation.

So does that mean all the cartoon violence over the years is just a large form of serious physical abuse.

Wow I have to take a hard look at FLCL, excel saga, and definitely gintama

[kitten320]

I would kill off Sasuke, he totally deserved that.

I would give Sakura some actual brains where she tells Sasuke "Fuck you asshole" and give her some actual development and proper action scenes.

Would not have everyone giving birth in same year. I would have children of different age. Actually would not pair everyone up anyway.

Would give NaruHina an actual development that made sense. Or forget altogether about it and move onto NaruSaku since it was far better developed than NaruHina, less work to do.

Would not bring everyone back to life in Pain arc. Neither would I drag out the final war to such extremes.

Did I say that Sasuke would die?

Originally Posted by RBomber

@kagato3: As someone on TVTropes pointed out, ninja school is less military academy and more like Xavier's School For The Gifted. Especially with (supposedly) long-standing peace between all villages. And if you think hard enough, almost every jutsu can be modified for peacetime purpose.

Does not change a fact that they get freaking murdered at a simple promotion exam.