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LevelSeven · 2017-09-01, 04:38

oh that is interesting,

guess the fight between non-"the one"-mode escanor vs super-peak meliodas was quite harder for the former than it looked

Kanon · 2017-09-01, 11:53

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AP24 · 2017-09-01, 12:06

Just read the chapter, Ban admits that he's useless.

Also, didn't realize before that Elaine looks different now. Having longer hair makes her look more like an adult.

Y Ddraig Goch · 2017-09-01, 12:10

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DragonOsman · 2017-09-01, 18:13

^Hopefully.

The spoiler is a bit misleading about how the part where Merlin and Elizabeth argued about what to do with Meliodas and whether to heal him or not, and about who should be in the Perfect Cube (plus whether or not Elizabeth should be in there with him), went down. I'd already read the chapter before reading that spoiler, too, which gave me an even weirder feeling while reading the part that was off.

Anyway, I know I'm also probably coming off as a broken record now as well, but I really want Melidas to get stronger without having to revert to how he was as the leader of Ten Commandments. It's fine if he recovers from the darkness through the Power of Love, but it'd be great if it also made him stronger.

And yeah, hopefully they'll break the curse on Meliodas and Elizabeth before the three days are up. And if anyone thinks that it might not happen because not everything always gets a happy ending or whatnot, I just want to say this to that: From what Hawk said when Meliodas declared that he'll break the curse ("But then you two will, will--", while crying), I'm actually thinking they'll die soon after the curse is broken anyway. After all, they've already been caught in that perpetual reincarnation and rebirth cycle for two long. It'd be better for them to just die after the curse is broken. It sounds like it'll kind of defeat the purpose, but I just think that at this point, they deserve the rest. Together.

zezegui222 · 2017-09-01, 18:50

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Anyway, I know I'm also probably coming off as a broken record now as well, but I really want Melidas to get stronger without having to revert to how he was as the leader of Ten Commandments.

I want that too, but I really want Meliodas revert to his old self in some chapters, I like that badass Meliodas.

I feeling these 3 days will be similar to 5 minutes in Namekusei or much longer.

DragonOsman · 2017-09-01, 19:04

He doesn't have to revert back to how he was back then to seem badass, though, IMO. And it just sucks when the main protagonist of a story has to turn evil to be strong. Yeah, sure, Meliodas is strong normally as well, but the part I hate is that the gets stronger when he's evil.

Random14 · 2017-09-01, 20:26

Yeah, but unfortunately its a narrative handicap, and relatively common at that. The hero's superpowered evil side trope and all, otherwise if the hero could control their full power the series would be over a lot sooner.

Well, things are even worse than expected. I was hoping that loss would knock Meliodas back to his senses but guess not, and now its down to King, Diane and Gowther to free Camelot. At least nice to see Arthur again. And poor Ban, but whenever he does get his power-up it'll probably be really powerful (just like how King is still coming into his full power). Sounds like Escanor can't pull off that "The One" move again, so that they won't even be able to try to maneuver the big bad (whoever it ends up being, demon or goddess) into fighting Escanor at noon.

SilverGlavenus · 2017-09-02, 00:24

Hmm, so Escanor using Sunshine can put a lot of strain on his body. Merlin also said something about exerting all the power he stored up in many years, so I guess that his ultimate 1 minute is the time he can access to that storage of power ????. That could explain his sudden surge of power at peak noon

. Anyway, it is pretty much confirmed that Escanor cannot solo either DK or SG.

Ban is crazy underwhelming right now, he is even weaker than Gowther. Regarding Gowther, I wonder if he has all the powers of his master or just some of it, since he is only a doll, and he is not the type to go all out in battle, so...

DragonOsman · 2017-09-02, 09:16

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Yeah, but unfortunately its a narrative handicap, and relatively common at that. The hero's superpowered evil side trope and all, otherwise if the hero could control their full power the series would be over a lot sooner.

Yes, you're right. But I still don't like it, even though I kind of understand it. That said, though, maybe Meliodas wil find a way to get to full power without being evil sometime around the time of the final battle? If it's then, the narrative handicap shouldn't matter much, right?

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Well, things are even worse than expected. I was hoping that loss would knock Meliodas back to his senses but guess not, and now its down to King, Diane and Gowther to free Camelot. At least nice to see Arthur again. And poor Ban, but whenever he does get his power-up it'll probably be really powerful (just like how King is still coming into his full power). Sounds like Escanor can't pull off that "The One" move again, so that they won't even be able to try to maneuver the big bad (whoever it ends up being, demon or goddess) into fighting Escanor at noon.

True. I really think Ban needs a power-up ASAP as well. I wonder what it'll be. And seeing Arthur again is great. Hopefully he can help out the Sins.

But about Escanor's "The One," it being from stored up power means that the next time it's high noon, he won't be able to get as strong, right? Since there won't be as much stored power as there was vs. Meliodas in the previous chapter.

Kanon · 2017-09-02, 12:28

Escanor had to use up all of the power he had stored up over years to be able to defeat Meliodas. That's crazy.

How can the Sins hope to defeat Zeldoris, who has the demon king's powers and should be at least as strong as evil Meliodas? I guess the solution will come from Arthur. There is obviously a reason other than mere affection he is so important to Merlin.

The question corner pretty much confirmed Derrieri is alive. When asked whether she had ever worn clothes in her life, the author answered she might in the future.

DragonOsman · 2017-09-02, 16:23

From what was said, I'm actually thinking that the Meliodas we just saw fight Escanor was stronger than he was as the leader of the Ten Commandments. That would mean he's stronger than Zeldoris as well, right? Since Zeldoris also got his power from the Demon King. It could also be that the Demon King is even stronger than the Meliodas that Escanor defeated, which would mean that Zeldoris too is stronger. I think this likelier now that I think of it.

One theory I've read about Arthur is that he might be the one with the power of the Goddesses that can lift the curse from the Goddesses' side, like how for the Demons it's Zeldoris.

marvelB · 2017-09-02, 17:16

As far as the Mel situation is concerned, I'd honestly say our heroes are a lot luckier than they initially realize..... because if Mel decided to go full Indura on them, there's a good chance that even Escanor at his peak wouldn't have been able to handle him (and he should be more than capable of the transformation, too..... he not only far exceeds the power requirements, his curse pretty much guarantees that his hearts will always regenerate, were he to die in battle). I mean sure, Elizabeth should be able to relieve him of that state (as she did with Derrierie and Monspiet in the past), but who knows how many people Mel will have slaughtered by the time she succeeds? On the other hand, it would be a massive advantage for our heroes if the good Mel is able to go into Indura mode without the risk of reverting to his evil self.....

As for Ban, I too am sad to see him trailing so far behind his fellow sins.... though on the plus side, he's practically guaranteed to get his power-up soon (I mean, he still hasn't gotten back his sacred weapon yet, for one thing). Besides, I'd find it bitterly ironic that the only true immortal of the sins turned out to be the weakest among them, lol.

marvelB · 2017-09-08, 01:56

Bump for spoilers:

Spoiler for 234:

FKS · 2017-09-08, 02:51

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Spoiler for 234:

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Kanon · 2017-09-08, 11:57

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DragonOsman · 2017-09-08, 17:49

Thanks for the spoilers, MalvelB.

Spoiler for comments on spoilers:

Anyway, it'd be great if Ban got a power-up soon. He'll likely get one when he gets his Sacred Weapon back, but I wonder what it is and where it is.

Kanon · 2017-09-08, 18:39

Spoiler:

takenashi · 2017-09-09, 11:18

why are you all using "spoiler" if it isn't one O_o

The truth is that ban is weaker than even dianne so he needs a new factor that makes him stronger or just obtain his sacred arm(both are cliche). At this point the others are just more than ban can expect and he doesn't like that meliodas and scanor are able to fight at the same lvl xDD

So, he sure will get a stupid power up and we will already have expected this.

DragonOsman · 2017-09-09, 12:30

You think he'll get a stupid power-up? So you consider him getting a power-up from getting his Sacred Treasure back a stupid power-up as well? Because I beg to differ. He had his Sacred Treasure before the start of the series. He'd just lost it like the others had (with the exception of King). It's possible he'll get another power-up on top of that, though. We'll see. But I don't see it as being a stupid power-up.

2017-09-01, 11:53	Link #3322
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Spoiler: I don't know how Merlin worded it exactly, but the fact she doesn't place her trust in Ban pretty much means she thinks he's useless. And she's not wrong of course. He's severely outmatched by the other sins, Elizabeth, and possibly even Elaine. I must sound like a broken record at this point, but he really needs a power-up. Rather than a magic spell, power of love is most likely what will bring Meliodas back. __________________

2017-09-01, 18:13	Link #3325
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	^Hopefully. The spoiler is a bit misleading about how the part where Merlin and Elizabeth argued about what to do with Meliodas and whether to heal him or not, and about who should be in the Perfect Cube (plus whether or not Elizabeth should be in there with him), went down. I'd already read the chapter before reading that spoiler, too, which gave me an even weirder feeling while reading the part that was off. Anyway, I know I'm also probably coming off as a broken record now as well, but I really want Melidas to get stronger without having to revert to how he was as the leader of Ten Commandments. It's fine if he recovers from the darkness through the Power of Love, but it'd be great if it also made him stronger. And yeah, hopefully they'll break the curse on Meliodas and Elizabeth before the three days are up. And if anyone thinks that it might not happen because not everything always gets a happy ending or whatnot, I just want to say this to that: From what Hawk said when Meliodas declared that he'll break the curse ("But then you two will, will--", while crying), I'm actually thinking they'll die soon after the curse is broken anyway. After all, they've already been caught in that perpetual reincarnation and rebirth cycle for two long. It'd be better for them to just die after the curse is broken. It sounds like it'll kind of defeat the purpose, but I just think that at this point, they deserve the rest. Together. __________________

2017-09-01, 19:04	Link #3327
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	He doesn't have to revert back to how he was back then to seem badass, though, IMO. And it just sucks when the main protagonist of a story has to turn evil to be strong. Yeah, sure, Meliodas is strong normally as well, but the part I hate is that the gets stronger when he's evil. __________________

2017-09-02, 12:28	Link #3331
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Escanor had to use up all of the power he had stored up over years to be able to defeat Meliodas. That's crazy. How can the Sins hope to defeat Zeldoris, who has the demon king's powers and should be at least as strong as evil Meliodas? I guess the solution will come from Arthur. There is obviously a reason other than mere affection he is so important to Merlin. The question corner pretty much confirmed Derrieri is alive. When asked whether she had ever worn clothes in her life, the author answered she might in the future. __________________

2017-09-02, 16:23	Link #3332
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	From what was said, I'm actually thinking that the Meliodas we just saw fight Escanor was stronger than he was as the leader of the Ten Commandments. That would mean he's stronger than Zeldoris as well, right? Since Zeldoris also got his power from the Demon King. It could also be that the Demon King is even stronger than the Meliodas that Escanor defeated, which would mean that Zeldoris too is stronger. I think this likelier now that I think of it. One theory I've read about Arthur is that he might be the one with the power of the Goddesses that can lift the curse from the Goddesses' side, like how for the Demons it's Zeldoris. __________________

2017-09-01, 04:38	Link #3321
LevelSeven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Germany	oh that is interesting, guess the fight between non-"the one"-mode escanor vs super-peak meliodas was quite harder for the former than it looked

2017-09-01, 12:06	Link #3323
AP24 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	Just read the chapter, Ban admits that he's useless. Also, didn't realize before that Elaine looks different now. Having longer hair makes her look more like an adult.

2017-09-01, 20:26	Link #3328
Random14 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014	Yeah, but unfortunately its a narrative handicap, and relatively common at that. The hero's superpowered evil side trope and all, otherwise if the hero could control their full power the series would be over a lot sooner. Well, things are even worse than expected. I was hoping that loss would knock Meliodas back to his senses but guess not, and now its down to King, Diane and Gowther to free Camelot. At least nice to see Arthur again. And poor Ban, but whenever he does get his power-up it'll probably be really powerful (just like how King is still coming into his full power). Sounds like Escanor can't pull off that "The One" move again, so that they won't even be able to try to maneuver the big bad (whoever it ends up being, demon or goddess) into fighting Escanor at noon.

2017-09-02, 00:24	Link #3329
SilverGlavenus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Somewhere in this Universe	Hmm, so Escanor using Sunshine can put a lot of strain on his body. Merlin also said something about exerting all the power he stored up in many years, so I guess that his ultimate 1 minute is the time he can access to that storage of power ????. That could explain his sudden surge of power at peak noon . Anyway, it is pretty much confirmed that Escanor cannot solo either DK or SG. Ban is crazy underwhelming right now, he is even weaker than Gowther. Regarding Gowther, I wonder if he has all the powers of his master or just some of it, since he is only a doll, and he is not the type to go all out in battle, so...

2017-09-02, 17:16	Link #3333
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	As far as the Mel situation is concerned, I'd honestly say our heroes are a lot luckier than they initially realize..... because if Mel decided to go full Indura on them, there's a good chance that even Escanor at his peak wouldn't have been able to handle him (and he should be more than capable of the transformation, too..... he not only far exceeds the power requirements, his curse pretty much guarantees that his hearts will always regenerate, were he to die in battle). I mean sure, Elizabeth should be able to relieve him of that state (as she did with Derrierie and Monspiet in the past), but who knows how many people Mel will have slaughtered by the time she succeeds? On the other hand, it would be a massive advantage for our heroes if the good Mel is able to go into Indura mode without the risk of reverting to his evil self..... As for Ban, I too am sad to see him trailing so far behind his fellow sins.... though on the plus side, he's practically guaranteed to get his power-up soon (I mean, he still hasn't gotten back his sacred weapon yet, for one thing). Besides, I'd find it bitterly ironic that the only true immortal of the sins turned out to be the weakest among them, lol.

2017-09-08, 01:56	Link #3334
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Bump for spoilers: Spoiler for 234: So, it turns out that Arthur has a purpose in staying in Camelot. What would it be? Why, none other than: Images 234 Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? While the blade in question is under Zeldris' possession, he's unable to pull it from its stone. Soon, a servant of his comes forward with "good" news: The Demon King is about to awaken! The spirit of the Demon King tells Zeldris that Meliodas will be the one to inherit the title of the new king. Thus, the king gives Zeldris a new order: to recover Meliodas to their side....!!!! Edit: Oh, nearly forgot to mention that Zeldris addresses the DK as his father. So naturally, that would mean he's Mel's father, as well.... Last edited by marvelB; 2017-09-08 at 02:23.

2017-09-08, 11:57	Link #3336
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Spoiler: Why did Arthur not pull out Excalibur before? Was the sword always in Zeldoris' possession, or is there another reason he didn't do so? Like the location of the sword being unknown before, him being too young, or something like that. Anyway, I bet it's as hax as its Fate version. __________________

2017-09-08, 17:49	Link #3337
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	Thanks for the spoilers, MalvelB. Spoiler for comments on spoilers: We already knew that Meliodas is the Demon King's son, didn't we? That's the reason why he was touted as the next Demon King, and not just because he was strong enough, after all, right? But I don't like the fact that the Demon King is awakening, or even the possibility that Meliodas is already becoming the next Demon King. I guess this is really what he was talking about when he said that one of the requirements for his and Elizabeth's curse being lifted for the Seven Deadly Sins to end and for the Ten Commandments to be revived. For the revival of the Commandments, he probably needs to become evil again and lead them. And what's happening now is probably the start of it. And yeah, it's great that the location of Excalibur was revealed. It just sucks that it's under Zeldoris's control (though it's great that he can't pull it out of the rock). I also wonder why Arthur hadn't pulled out sooner, too, just like Kanon. But that being said, hopefully he'll pull it out and manage to escape. Anyway, it'd be great if Ban got a power-up soon. He'll likely get one when he gets his Sacred Weapon back, but I wonder what it is and where it is. __________________

2017-09-08, 18:39	Link #3338
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Spoiler: I always thought Meliodas was the demon king's son too. Though I can't remember if it's something that was stated in the manga before or if I simply assumed it. __________________

2017-09-09, 11:18	Link #3339
takenashi Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2013	why are you all using "spoiler" if it isn't one O_o The truth is that ban is weaker than even dianne so he needs a new factor that makes him stronger or just obtain his sacred arm(both are cliche). At this point the others are just more than ban can expect and he doesn't like that meliodas and scanor are able to fight at the same lvl xDD So, he sure will get a stupid power up and we will already have expected this.

2017-09-09, 12:30	Link #3340
DragonOsman Dragon King Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Al Khobar, Saudi Arabia Age: 34	You think he'll get a stupid power-up? So you consider him getting a power-up from getting his Sacred Treasure back a stupid power-up as well? Because I beg to differ. He had his Sacred Treasure before the start of the series. He'd just lost it like the others had (with the exception of King). It's possible he'll get another power-up on top of that, though. We'll see. But I don't see it as being a stupid power-up. __________________