(CR) Solo Leveling

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by Dengar

I mean I interpret it as him throwing his life on the line because he doesn't understand the concept of danger. Or self preservation.

I think he totally understands that because of his experience pre-transformation, outside of the fact that he was willing to go into the Double Dungeon, but that was more because he's really desperate to help his family.

[Dengar]

I mean the dude just goes after a flock of monsters that outlevel him by a ton with not a care in the world.

And then finishes off a giant snake after allowing the monster to beat him up for a while.

Like if he had just finished it off from the get go he wouldn't have gotten hurt.

Same with that Igris the Underwhelming fellow. He should have just killed him in the first minute, but for some reason he chose not to.

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by Dengar

I mean the dude just goes after a flock of monsters that outlevel him by a ton with not a care in the world.

And then finishes off a giant snake after allowing the monster to beat him up for a while.

Like if he had just finished it off from the get go he wouldn't have gotten hurt.

Same with that Igris the Underwhelming fellow. He should have just killed him in the first minute, but for some reason he chose not to.

I don't think it was not a care in the world, he just knew that despite being out-leveled he still wants to challenge them to get stronger.

And I don't think he "allowed" it to beat him up so much as he just tanked the hits before he was in a position to finish it.

He would not have been able to kill Igris that quickly unless you think he would have been fast enough to hit him in the eye from the first second.

[Dengar]

I mean he was fast enough to hit him in the eye at the end there....

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by Dengar

I mean he was fast enough to hit him in the eye at the end there....

I think because Igris let his guard down thinking he was completely spent and he was already close to him. It's the only reason it worked and Jinwoo realized it.

[Dengar]

Then maybe he should have done that earlier.

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by Dengar

Then maybe he should have done that earlier.

I mean, if his plan was to deliberately let himself get beat up so Igris would let his guard down .

[Dengar]

Yeah I'm sorry. It messes with my suspension of disbelief when someone uses a tactic that could have been used all along.

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by Dengar

Yeah I'm sorry. It messes with my suspension of disbelief when someone uses a tactic that could have been used all along.

I'm not seeing where they convey that though? Ignis was shrugging off all his attacks prior to that.

[Dengar]

He made no attempts to trick him into getting his eye stabbed until the very end.

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by Dengar

He made no attempts to trick him into getting his eye stabbed until the very end.

Because it was literally the only move he could make because nothing else worked and it was probably the only chance he had to sell it because Igris had beaten him so thoroughly. So Igris genuinely believed he didn't have anything left.

[scififan]

Originally Posted by Dengar

Then maybe he should have done that earlier.

It is more like random and luck. The show emphasizes an underdog may have chance with good lucks. He is at disadvantage, and the joy of winning is rewarding to viewers, perhaps.

Spoiler for feedback after reading online Japanese discussion:

Japanese web discussion is negative toward this show, but they shrug it off as this anime is popular oversea. The Solo Leveling sale in Japan does not report number. Usually, it means shows are not sold well. Japanese online discussion say it is anit-Japan because it shows an island nation in a negative light. The antagonist(and his Japanese sounding name) is from the island nation. Well, the people who dislike the show are not aware several anime and manga portray bad image antagonists with the specific ethnic traits. It would make those anime biased shows, too. The same people who complain Solo Leveling as anti-Japan show may find it is fine to portray non-Japan people with negative images.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by scififan

It is more like random and luck. The show emphasizes an underdog may have chance with good lucks. He is at disadvantage, and the joy of winning is rewarding to viewers, perhaps.

Spoiler for feedback after reading online Japanese discussion:

Japanese web discussion is negative toward this show, but they shrug it off as this anime is popular oversea. The Solo Leveling sale in Japan does not report number. Usually, it means shows are not sold well. Japanese online discussion say it is anit-Japan because it shows an island nation in a negative light. The antagonist(and his Japanese sounding name) is from the island nation. Well, the people who dislike the show are not aware several anime and manga portray bad image antagonists with the specific ethnic traits. It would make those anime biased shows, too. The same people who complain Solo Leveling as anti-Japan show may find it is fine to portray non-Japan people with negative images.

Spoiler for spoiler answer:

I'm not sure what you mean with your "island nation" thing. All the antagonists shown in the first cour are either monsters or Korean. The real anti-Japan hate will come later, and it's not nearly as vague.

[Dengar]

Originally Posted by scififan

It is more like random and luck. The show emphasizes an underdog may have chance with good lucks. He is at disadvantage, and the joy of winning is rewarding to viewers, perhaps.

But Jinwoo isn't an underdog? He is the most special guy on the planet.

You know, as many people keep trying to assure me for reasons I don't understand: "It's a power fantasy."

[Mad Pierrot]

Originally Posted by Dengar

But Jinwoo isn't an underdog? He is the most special guy on the planet.

You know, as many people keep trying to assure me for reasons I don't understand: "It's a power fantasy."

He started as an underdog and became the opposite after an insane grinding. Kinda like leveling up in an RPG like Persona 3 which made the final boss a piece of cake the first time I played that game and grinned in preparation.

[Dengar]

Originally Posted by Mad Pierrot

He started as an underdog and became the opposite after an insane grinding. Kinda like leveling up in an RPG like Persona 3 which made the final boss a piece of cake the first time I played that game and grinned in preparation.

From where I was standing, he was the chosen one from day 1. He never needed to grind to gain the super special ability that gives him more and more power for doing his dailies like some kind of gacha game.

He didn't need to grind to completely clear out that dungeon.

He didn't need to grind to finish all those dungeons together with Jinho.

He didn't even need to grind to gain his job change.


He was constantly skipping ahead doing things he was underleveled for, and leveled up as a result. That's like the smoothest sailing as it gets.

It's literally how I play my JRPGs. Because I hate grinding.


There hasn't been a single enemy he wasn't able to effortlessly defeat.

[Frontier]

Well, he was "chosen" in the sense that he was the last person standing in the room after fulfilling all the requirements.

Though I feel like he's gotten the crud beaten out of him enough that not every fight he's been in has been an effortless victory on his part even if he rallied himself to get the win.

[Mad Pierrot]

I remember finding the dungeons of Persona 3 boring so I instead focused on grinding there. If there is a game that motivated me to fight as somebody weaker is .hack//GU since it can get ridiculously annoying to make Haseo leave the game, receive a mail, and then work in a level for dozens of times. Final Fantasy X didn't have level ups but instead how whatever the player wants to do with the cast. Other than that I don't remember other recent RPGs I have played. I think Kingdom Hearts II required grinding as there were a special class of bosses known as Superbosses kinda made famous by SNK games.

[Dengar]

Originally Posted by Frontier

Well, he was "chosen" in the sense that he was the last person standing in the room after fulfilling all the requirements.

Though I feel like he's gotten the crud beaten out of him enough that not every fight he's been in has been an effortless victory on his part even if he rallied himself to get the win.

The only HP that matters is his last one. Him taking damage isn't really that big of a deal.

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by Dengar

The only HP that matters is his last one. Him taking damage isn't really that big of a deal.

The fact that he even loses HP at all feels like it does matter.