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Sageblink · 2013-09-03, 18:03

It's QB in human form !

*run*

AuraTwilight · 2013-09-03, 18:18

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Originally Posted by GDB

Honestly, if she isn't an Avatar for Madoka, I'll be a bit disappointed. They already have an excellent cast of characters that people love, so for what purpose would she truly serve? Is she just being created and having the story molded to fit her so they can make merchandise of a sixth girl? I really hope that isn't the case.

Isn't reducing a character to just being a 'disguise' for an existing character what would truly be merchandise-whoring, honestly? It's not like these characters exist in a vacuum, and having a character we have no context for from the Witch-verse is a pretty good way of contrasting Madoka's new universe. Especially if this is a character who can only exist in the new universe (Her parents were eaten by Witches before they could have her, or something).

Myssa Rei · 2013-09-03, 18:37

Yes, finally someone made mention of the magical IPS baby theory! About time.

Kind of bummed out that, given the stable of characters the franchise already has via spinoffs, they still decided to create a new one for the movie. Boo.

My favorite crackpot theory so far from other fora though is how Nagisa will be the "Kaworu" to Homura for this movie (ala Rebuild 3.33).

Triple_R · 2013-09-03, 18:47

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Originally Posted by GDB

Honestly, if she isn't an Avatar for Madoka, I'll be a bit disappointed. They already have an excellent cast of characters that people love, so for what purpose would she truly serve?

Yes, it's an excellent cast, but it's small and frankly could use some growth. This is especially true since Madoka and Sayaka aren't likely to be around for most of the movie. Homura, Mami, Kyouko, and Kyubey are excellent characters, but there's only so much you can do with just the four of them that will seem fresh. Hitomi will likely retain some involvement, possibly achieve even greater involvement, but that just brings us to five. Having a brand new character just to act as a bit of an "X" factor is definitely a plus in my view. That being said...

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Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Kind of bummed out that, given the stable of characters the franchise already has via spinoffs, they still decided to create a new one for the movie. Boo.

Yeah, I see your point. It would be cool to have Oriko and/or Kirika show up in the movie (I'm sure some would add Kazumi, but I was never into her manga much). Of course, that might still happen, but it seems less likely given the new Nagisa character.

Myssa Rei · 2013-09-03, 19:21

Need to ask, where did the idea that the movie will be set in Kasamino start? I know it's the neighboring city beside Mitakihara and Asunairo (where Kasumi Magica is set), and Kyouko's home was there, but what's the sudden jump in significance?

Kazu-kun · 2013-09-03, 20:10

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

I just noticed that all the movie 3 posters still have Homura with her original shield/sand dial, which implies she still has her original powers for some time.

She doesn't have Madoka's ribbon either, so this might not be the new world. We'll have to wait and see.

KoiYuki · 2013-09-03, 20:35

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Originally Posted by AuraTwilight

Has anyone considered the possibility that this girl isn't meant to literally be Madoka, but evocative of her in a way that gets Homura's goat? I can see the moment where Homura's crying and it looks like Madoka's comforting her, then she turns around and it's Nagisa.

Only issue with that is that Homura has her old headband.

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And with her first transformation, she has a vision of a dark-haired girl.

Wait, why don't I remember this?

GDB · 2013-09-03, 20:37

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Originally Posted by KoiYuki

Wait, why don't I remember this?

Because he's speculating the character's background who hasn't had any air time?

KoiYuki · 2013-09-03, 20:46

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Originally Posted by GDB

Because he's speculating the character's background who hasn't had any air time?

Oops, I read it as "had" instead of "has".

blitz1/2 · 2013-09-03, 21:17

Ok, now we have the 6 power rangers now in full colour!

woxx · 2013-09-04, 03:09

I'm afraid of next scenario: this new girl should be some kind of evil. Homura knows something, so she will try to haunt and kill her, while Mami will protect... I just hope this won't happen.

Mumi · 2013-09-04, 07:55

Ok new theory time, Nagisa has a dark secret and Homura finds out about it. Homura then proceeds to try and kill her but Mami tries to protect her, hence why in the trailer Mami and Homura are fighting. Also hence why Nagisa is standing next to Mami looking scared in the movie poster.

KoiYuki · 2013-09-04, 19:14

What I'm wondering is why she's shown untransformed even though she has a ring in the group picture.

Jimmy C · 2013-09-04, 20:18

Which group picture? If it's the one with the news, how can you even tell if she has a ring or not?

Kazu-kun · 2013-09-04, 21:05

So, Until now I've always thought that Homura had a bow and wings in the new world since the moment she became a magical girl. That would make perfect logical sense, all things considering....

But Urobuchi doesn't care much about logic when it comes to technicalities such as how the powers work and so on, and coupled with what the trailer shows and the news about this Nagisa girl, I started to change my mind.

Let's see. We know that the original Homura lands in the new world right after a fight with the mayu, the fight in which Sayaka disappears. The next time we see Homura is in the scene in which she encounters Madoka's family. In that scene she's already changed. She looks more at peace with herself. She even offers one of Madoka's ribbons to Junko, which is a pretty big clue she was comes to terms with things.

What I wonder is, what happened in between those two scenes?

Well, I think the third movie happened.

I think the third movie will take place right after the original Homura lands in the new world, but before her encounter with Madoka's family. It will show how she struggles to comes to terms with the fact that Madoka isn't there anymore, and also how she gains her new powers. I mean, let's say she still has her shield for some reason (she shouldn't have, but again, let's forget logic) but of course, the time hax doesn't work anymore, so she can only uses guns to fight (which would explain what we see in the trailer: her fight with Mami and so on).

Then this Nagisa girl appears. Maybe she really is a fragment of Madoka, and she comes to warn the girls about something. Initially Hamura is conflicted and wants nothing with it, but eventually she hears her out and saves the world along with Mami and Kyoko.

Along the way, Homura gets over her depression and at the end she begins to wear Madoka's ribbon. And after that, Nagisa, surprise surprise, turns into Homura's bow and wings.

Yeah, something like that. I don't like it one bit because I wanted to see Homura fight with her new powers in the movie, and if I'm right, she will be using guns the whole time instead. I hope I'm wrong because we already saw that in the series, and I wanted something new....

KoiYuki · 2013-09-04, 21:16

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Originally Posted by Jimmy C

Which group picture? If it's the one with the news, how can you even tell if she has a ring or not?

I don't remember what I was doing, but I zoomed in on it for some reason and saw it. Here:

Jimmy C · 2013-09-05, 03:42

Well, in that case, if she isn't transformed, of course she has her ring.
And I doubt that her MG costume, it's too... bland, even compared to Homura's, which you could say was as plain as a school uniform.

KoiYuki · 2013-09-05, 09:04

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Originally Posted by Jimmy C

Well, in that case, if she isn't transformed, of course she has her ring.
And I doubt that her MG costume, it's too... bland, even compared to Homura's, which you could say was as plain as a school uniform.

I meant why she's in regular clothes but already a magical girl (evidenced by the ring) when everyone else in he picture is transformed. That can't be her costume either, or else the ring would be gone. Maybe it's a spoiler what she wears?

maximilianjenus · 2013-09-05, 10:05

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Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

So, Until now I've always thought that Homura had a bow and wings in the new world since the moment she became a magical girl. That would make perfect logical sense, all things considering....

But Urobuchi doesn't care much about logic when it comes to technicalities such as how the powers work and so on, and coupled with what the trailer shows and the news about this Nagisa girl, I started to change my mind.

Let's see. We know that the original Homura lands in the new world right after a fight with the mayu, the fight in which Sayaka disappears. The next time we see Homura is in the scene in which she encounters Madoka's family. In that scene she's already changed. She looks more at peace with herself. She even offers one of Madoka's ribbons to Junko, which is a pretty big clue she was comes to terms with things.

What I wonder is, what happened in between those two scenes?

Well, I think the third movie happened.

I think the third movie will take place right after the original Homura lands in the new world, but before her encounter with Madoka's family. It will show how she struggles to comes to terms with the fact that Madoka isn't there anymore, and also how she gains her new powers. I mean, let's say she still has her shield for some reason (she shouldn't have, but again, let's forget logic) but of course, the time hax doesn't work anymore, so she can only uses guns to fight (which would explain what we see in the trailer: her fight with Mami and so on).

Then this Nagisa girl appears. Maybe she really is a fragment of Madoka, and she comes to warn the girls about something. Initially Hamura is conflicted and wants nothing with it, but eventually she hears her out and saves the world along with Mami and Kyoko.

Along the way, Homura gets over her depression and at the end she begins to wear Madoka's ribbon. And after that, Nagisa, surprise surprise, turns into Homura's bow and wings.

Yeah, something like that. I don't like it one bit because I wanted to see Homura fight with her new powers in the movie, and if I'm right, she will be using guns the whole time instead. I hope I'm wrong because we already saw that in the series, and I wanted something new....

you are being to harsh to gen, remember that homura has always been alled an abnormal, so even if normally madoka's wish should have overwritten her powers, madoka's wish would have been completely impossible if it were not for homura.

woxx · 2013-09-05, 11:10

Homura's powers could be just changed after suicide attempt(if it is suicide)

2013-09-03, 18:37	Link #103
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Yes, finally someone made mention of the magical IPS baby theory! About time. Kind of bummed out that, given the stable of characters the franchise already has via spinoffs, they still decided to create a new one for the movie. Boo. My favorite crackpot theory so far from other fora though is how Nagisa will be the "Kaworu" to Homura for this movie (ala Rebuild 3.33). __________________

2013-09-03, 19:21	Link #105
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Need to ask, where did the idea that the movie will be set in Kasamino start? I know it's the neighboring city beside Mitakihara and Asunairo (where Kasumi Magica is set), and Kyouko's home was there, but what's the sudden jump in significance? __________________

2013-09-03, 21:17	Link #110
blitz1/2 Tenshi's Defense Squadron Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Fighting against those who oppress the system	Ok, now we have the 6 power rangers now in full colour! __________________ hai, hai. Onii-chan has his work cut out for him.

2013-09-04, 07:55	Link #112
Mumi SHSL Nerd Join Date: Sep 2013	Ok new theory time, Nagisa has a dark secret and Homura finds out about it. Homura then proceeds to try and kill her but Mami tries to protect her, hence why in the trailer Mami and Homura are fighting. Also hence why Nagisa is standing next to Mami looking scared in the movie poster. __________________ Being Mami-san is suffering.

2013-09-04, 21:05	Link #115
Kazu-kun Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	So, Until now I've always thought that Homura had a bow and wings in the new world since the moment she became a magical girl. That would make perfect logical sense, all things considering.... But Urobuchi doesn't care much about logic when it comes to technicalities such as how the powers work and so on, and coupled with what the trailer shows and the news about this Nagisa girl, I started to change my mind. Let's see. We know that the original Homura lands in the new world right after a fight with the mayu, the fight in which Sayaka disappears. The next time we see Homura is in the scene in which she encounters Madoka's family. In that scene she's already changed. She looks more at peace with herself. She even offers one of Madoka's ribbons to Junko, which is a pretty big clue she was comes to terms with things. What I wonder is, what happened in between those two scenes? Well, I think the third movie happened. I think the third movie will take place right after the original Homura lands in the new world, but before her encounter with Madoka's family. It will show how she struggles to comes to terms with the fact that Madoka isn't there anymore, and also how she gains her new powers. I mean, let's say she still has her shield for some reason (she shouldn't have, but again, let's forget logic) but of course, the time hax doesn't work anymore, so she can only uses guns to fight (which would explain what we see in the trailer: her fight with Mami and so on). Then this Nagisa girl appears. Maybe she really is a fragment of Madoka, and she comes to warn the girls about something. Initially Hamura is conflicted and wants nothing with it, but eventually she hears her out and saves the world along with Mami and Kyoko. Along the way, Homura gets over her depression and at the end she begins to wear Madoka's ribbon. And after that, Nagisa, surprise surprise, turns into Homura's bow and wings. Yeah, something like that. I don't like it one bit because I wanted to see Homura fight with her new powers in the movie, and if I'm right, she will be using guns the whole time instead. I hope I'm wrong because we already saw that in the series, and I wanted something new.... __________________ Last edited by Kazu-kun; 2013-09-04 at 21:49.

2013-09-03, 18:03	Link #101
Sageblink Speculation is wrong. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Paris	It's QB in human form ! run

2013-09-04, 03:09	Link #111
woxx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: eastern europe :(	I'm afraid of next scenario: this new girl should be some kind of evil. Homura knows something, so she will try to haunt and kill her, while Mami will protect... I just hope this won't happen.

2013-09-04, 19:14	Link #113
KoiYuki Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Age: 32	What I'm wondering is why she's shown untransformed even though she has a ring in the group picture.

2013-09-04, 20:18	Link #114
Jimmy C Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007	Which group picture? If it's the one with the news, how can you even tell if she has a ring or not?

2013-09-05, 03:42	Link #117
Jimmy C Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007	Well, in that case, if she isn't transformed, of course she has her ring. And I doubt that her MG costume, it's too... bland, even compared to Homura's, which you could say was as plain as a school uniform.

2013-09-05, 11:10	Link #120
woxx Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: eastern europe :(	Homura's powers could be just changed after suicide attempt(if it is suicide)