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Old 2016-08-31, 23:56   Link #1061
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I love scum protagonist... a consistent scum protagonist...

This Suimei dude put on a mask of a good guy. He doesn't even realize that he's a scum.

This is not a scum protagonist. Just an a-hole thinking himself not.
I guess that is why you were angry with Suimei because he is not a pure scum who attempt to sleep with any girls that he encountered. He is actually trying to help his bro to get a girl.

Plus, nothing is lost since Mizuki isn't as pretty as other girls in the series.
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Old 2016-09-01, 01:49   Link #1062
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It is still brainwashing a girl into liking someone she doesnt. Not something a good person would do.
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Old 2016-09-01, 02:36   Link #1063
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Anybody has no information on heroines, except Mizuki and Lefille. And that I monitor fixedly transfer of WN, and Japanese enough well I don't know yet?
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Old 2016-09-01, 03:35   Link #1064
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I smelled NTR and came back in (actually read the Chinese version up to vol 2 but stopped), and learned that the MC is a scum that forces a girl on his bro. But why not look at it in another direction and consider him trying to protect himself from his gay best friend instead? As far as I understand, Reiji (the chosen hero) shows no interests in any girls but seem more obsessed with our MC. Our MC, freaked out by his bro's tendencies, of course want to force someone between himself and his 'best friend'. There's nothing unclean about it after all.
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Old 2016-09-01, 07:30   Link #1065
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I guess that is why you were angry with Suimei because he is not a pure scum who attempt to sleep with any girls that he encountered. He is actually trying to help his bro to get a girl.

Plus, nothing is lost since Mizuki isn't as pretty as other girls in the series.
This guy just doesn't get it

In the first place I only care about Titania and Refille (loli version)

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It is still brainwashing a girl into liking someone she doesnt. Not something a good person would do.
This is the reason.
Not about helping bro get a girl or whatnot.

If you're a scum, then acknowledge yourself as a scum and act like one.
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Old 2016-09-01, 07:38   Link #1066
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Talking about best grill, did she turn back into an adult yet?
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Old 2016-09-01, 08:10   Link #1067
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This guy just doesn't get it

In the first place I only care about Titania and Refille (loli version)

This is the reason.
Not about helping bro get a girl or whatnot.

If you're a scum, then acknowledge yourself as a scum and act like one.
Whether he is acknowledging himself as scum or not, it doesn't change that he is a scum. You said you like scum hero, so why are you hating Suimei now for being a scum?

Maybe because he is a scum who doesn't have rapist gene in his body and give away his girls to other people for fun instead of monopoly them like others rapist hero in other WN.

You know what? If Suimei brainwashed Reiji to like Mizuki, none of you guys will bat an eye on it.
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Old 2016-09-01, 08:17   Link #1068
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Whether he is acknowledging himself as scum or not, it doesn't change that he is a scum. You said you like scum hero, so why are you hating Suimei now for being a scum?

Maybe because he is a scum who doesn't have rapist gene in his body and give away his girls to other people for fun instead of monopoly them like others rapist hero in other WN.

You know what? If Suimei brainwashed Reiji to like Mizuki, none of you guys will bat an eye on it.
Because the story initially established him as a unrewarded good guy, albeit with eccentric personality.

Why you keep insisting that I like rapist, mate? I feel offended.

I'd bat both eyes since I like Reiji since the beginning.
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Old 2016-09-01, 08:21   Link #1069
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Because the story initially established him as a unrewarded good guy, albeit with eccentric personality.

Why you keep insisting that I like rapist, mate? I feel offended.

I'd bat both eyes since I like Reiji since the beginning.
You always root for the MC who snusnu every girls that he saw in other WN threads, if I not mistaken.

and I doubt you like Reiji. You want Suimei to steal Titania from him in the past.
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Old 2016-09-01, 08:24   Link #1070
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^I find Reiji too much of ur standard Superior Japanese Highschool Hero (SJHH) to empathize with u. His utter inability to follow up on every1's fawning on him but showering of concern for our MC smells too gay...
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Old 2016-09-01, 08:34   Link #1071
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^Of course, being SJHH is his flaw... BUT! If you paid attention to recent trends in WN, SJHH is getting extremely rare now, replaced with those "outsider" type MC. So having him switched to MC would instead making it special.

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You always root for the MC who snusnu every girls that he saw in other WN threads, if I not mistaken.

and I doubt you like Reiji. You want Suimei to steal Titania from him in the past.
That's correct, but snusnu and rape is different my mate Not like I like rapists, but I just hate hetare, donkan, and hypocrite. Being a snusnuer automatically release MC from those negative traits, so we can focus on the plot after that.

Wanting Titania for MC and liking Reiji are different matters. Actually I prefer Titania as the MC instead lol~ Also at that point Suimei still considered good protagonist so I had no qualm with him then.
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Old 2016-09-01, 08:39   Link #1072
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^Of course, being SJHH is his flaw... BUT! If you paid attention to recent trends in WN, SJHH is getting extremely rare now, replaced with those "outsider" type MC. So having him switched to MC would instead making it special.



That's correct, but snusnu and rape is different my mate Not like I like rapists, but I just hate hetare, donkan, and hypocrite. Being a snusnuer automatically release MC from those negative traits, so we can focus on the plot after that.

Wanting Titania for MC and liking Reiji are different matters. Actually I prefer Titania as the MC instead lol~ Also at that point Suimei still considered good protagonist so I had no qualm with him then.
Having sex with underaged girl is considered as rape in many countries...ya know.

Also, I can completely understand why Suimei did that to Mizuki. Just imagine if Suimei rejected her confession, and the things will never be the same between both of them or 3 of them. Do you really think Mizuki will still going to talk to Suimei/Reiji casually or hang out with Reiji and Suimei after the confession took place? No. The friendship between 3 of them will slowly fall apart and it was clearly Suimei doesn't want that to happen. He is just a teenager with super power and of course he will take the shortcut to handle this issue. For him, it was nothing wrong as Mizuki was indeed like Reiji initially, and he felt he was at fault as his charisma may accidentally ran off from his control and made Mizuki attracted to him. So resetting her feeling is supposed the way to maintain their friendship status quo.
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Old 2016-09-01, 08:56   Link #1073
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Having sex with underaged girl is considered as rape in many countries...ya know.

Also, I can completely understand why Suimei did that to Mizuki. Just imagine if Suimei rejected her confession, and the things will never be the same between both of them or 3 of them. Do you really think Mizuki will still going to talk to Suimei/Reiji casually or hang out with Reiji and Suimei? No. The friendship between 3 of them will slowly fall apart and it was clearly Suimei doesn't want that to happen. He is just a teenager with super power and of course he will take the shortcut to handle this issue. For him, it was nothing wrong as Mizuki was indeed like Reiji initially, and he felt he was at fault as his charisma may accidentally ran off from his control and made Mizuki attracted to him. So resetting her feeling is supposed the way to maintain their friendship status quo.
Yo dude, dude...

I don't know till where you read, but... This friendship thing... It's always a weird point in the story. Suimei was hiding his identity in Japan and avoiding interpersonal relationships. The reason he brainwashed Mizuki because to not involve her in magical warfare. Now, there's no reason for him maintaining this friendship as we have known that he's not so keen in friendship in the first place, he can just transfer school or something. Also, Mizuki was a timid girl and not the clingy girl she is now. Her clingy feeling is for Suimei and he redirected it to Reiji. The thing that possessed her said that it gave great burden to Mizuki, clearly tormenting her.
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Old 2016-09-01, 09:39   Link #1074
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Furthermore in the first place it is not like he had to make her like him or someone else. He could just change the feelings to normal friendship or just outright delete that love for him.
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Old 2016-09-01, 10:45   Link #1075
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Furthermore in the first place it is not like he had to make her like him or someone else. He could just change the feelings to normal friendship or just outright delete that love for him.
But he made such choice. Nobody for it blames him. And let Titania remains with Reiji. Very few people need minor characters
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Old 2016-09-01, 11:48   Link #1076
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Come to think of it, was Titana ever illustrated? I don't recall seeing her in vols 1,3 and 4.
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Old 2016-09-01, 12:04   Link #1077
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-Empire's princess casually offered her body to Reiji, was turned down.
-Suimei revealed as a virgin, girls are happy about it
-Mc and co go to the union where lots of demi-humans and humans live.
-finds out childhood friend/cousin who lost her memories live their as a hero
-invade palace a few time to talk to her
-accidental bath scene, and breast grope
-stuff happens, demon general go after hero
-stuff happens, demon general was small fry, third party tried to kidnap hero
-stuff happens it was a close fight return to human fort
-insert some dere scenes
-end
Does it explain how Suimei's childhood friend ended up in the fantasy world?
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Old 2016-09-01, 12:11   Link #1078
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Does it explain how Suimei's childhood friend ended up in the fantasy world?
According to tled ch that came out today there are 4 summoned heroes, got summoned by different countries tough.
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Old 2016-09-02, 01:01   Link #1079
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Yo dude, dude...

I don't know till where you read, but... This friendship thing... It's always a weird point in the story. Suimei was hiding his identity in Japan and avoiding interpersonal relationships. The reason he brainwashed Mizuki because to not involve her in magical warfare. Now, there's no reason for him maintaining this friendship as we have known that he's not so keen in friendship in the first place, he can just transfer school or something. Also, Mizuki was a timid girl and not the clingy girl she is now. Her clingy feeling is for Suimei and he redirected it to Reiji. The thing that possessed her said that it gave great burden to Mizuki, clearly tormenting her.
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Furthermore in the first place it is not like he had to make her like him or someone else. He could just change the feelings to normal friendship or just outright delete that love for him.
Hence, I put "teenager with super power" in my post. Also, Suimei is intelligent but certainly not wise. So it is not surprise if he made a bad call on this, and I don't mind if it come back and bite his ass on later.

Even if he really turned out to be scum and do that for shit and giggle, I am going to get a popcorn and enjoy the ride.
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Old 2016-09-02, 04:00   Link #1080
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Had that revenge thing the MC had going from the beginning been resolved yet? I seem to remember he had this grudge thing against a female back on Earth or something.
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