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Dart-Sama · 2017-04-10, 14:18

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Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

Does this really count as NTR? He not in a relationship with her and her feeling for the hero is mutual after their adventures. If this is NTR, than men I don't know how many times I got NTR'd in real life.

are u sure u want to say that??

Kaito Yamakage · 2017-04-10, 14:22

I've seen so many people try to define NTR I wouldn't be surprised if someone has written a book on it.

I just take the literal meaning of the word "to be stolen", applying to both actually being stolen and implied feelings of being stolen.

If you get down to it you could write some confusing as fuck scenarios for where either or wouldn't work so the best way to define it is just based on if someone is feeling (character or reader) NTR'd because of whatever shit went down regardless of whether their feelings are justified.

Like Tanaka the Wizard, everyone thinks that's NTR, but a lot of it is pretty borderline PoV stuff, it's intentionally written that way.

SineMora · 2017-04-10, 14:26

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Originally Posted by runset

The best part of this is the harem of course. This is what their reaction after wazu told them about aria. (This is after they resolved the misunderstanding and confessed their love toward wazu).

Spoiler for Each of thei reactionn:

The goddesses also one of the best part of this series. They are having a chat room in wazu's guild card.....

We have hero BBS, About time we have God BBS or other social media since they don't have anything to do... And this novel is the funniest I had despite the NTR... Ntr? Fuck that bitch... She's a filler chara compared to the real bitch.

DevilHighDxD · 2017-04-10, 14:27

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Originally Posted by Dart-Sama

are u sure u want to say that??

The girls that I like got taken by others (no shady shit like in most NTR) while I too dated girls that other people were pursing after. That's kinda how real world work. I think I even managed to get one girl to broke with her bf, not my intended outcome but still dated her.

runset · 2017-04-10, 14:32

This is a quick summary of what happened to CHF in these 4 years in the light novel.

Spoiler for Aria part 1:

-Because of her power, the church of light appointed her as holy maiden
- Being forced into hero's party member and there is also 2 more member in that party.
One is a powerful A class male warrior/knight and the other is a female wizard who specialize in attacking spell.
- Wazu also want to come with aria but always being beaten and bullied by hero by telling him that he will be a burden if he comes along. This makes aria resent the hero even more and she always remember this in the journey with the hero.
- In the journey, aria also notice that the hero also have good quality too and also capable to show kindness to other... if it was a women of course. He is kind to all women and there is so many women who feel affection toward the hero in this journey. The kindnesss that hero show to aria is more special and of course aria also realize it too but she doesn't care. In her eyes it's look like that the hero is acting and she is more busy thinking about the future. She clearly loathe him in this LN
- If she came back and choose wazu in the end, the hero will surely do something to wazu and the holy church also support hero in this matter too of course. She realized that she is still to weak right now and swear that she will get stronger in order to protect wazu.
- After this she train really hard and also built connection with other people (royalty,etc) so in the future she can counter whatever the church throw at her and wazu. By the end, she is already much stronger than the hero. Even if all of her connection cannot help her with this, she gladly throw everything away and go elope with wazu. She also realized that "wolf in the sheep clothing" sister is strong beyond normal and she will also help her too if it was for the sake of wazu. Together the three of them will leave the capital and live somewhere else.
- After she finally defeated the demon king, she think that the demon king is not a big deal. Yes it was a hard battle, but it wasn't as hard as she thought. She was happy that she will finally able to return to wazu after all this time.
- After the parade, the hero suddenly in the balcony of the castle declared that he want to take the holy maiden as his wife, which makes aria go "What the heck is this guy is saying?". She also deduced the situation quickly that by showing it in the front of the people and the king it was impossible for her to turn down the hero's proposal. This is when wazu ran away before the hero tried to kiss aria.
- Her answer? A good PUNCH to the hero's face and then she said it in front of everyone "Sorry, but i have to decline your offer". She then jump from the balcony and then run into wazu's house while thinking about her journey from the beginning until the end. After all this time she finally can be together with wazu only to be greeted with a piece of paper in his home. (You know what written inside that paper)
- After some moment of confusion and question the true meaning of that paper she deduced that maybe wazu is there watching the moment between her and the hero, but he run away before he can see aria punch the hero.
-She bolted out from the house and then prepared to go to search for wazu...ALONE.
-She saw kagane in front of the gate and also saw her fully prepared to go on to a journey too. She knew that kagane will also search for wazu, then this will be the fight between the two of them. The one who found wazu faster will be the winner. Then start the journey of aria in order to search for wazu....

Feeling sleepy right now. Will continue later...zzzzz

WyrdMonger · 2017-04-10, 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by runset

This is a quick summary of what happened to CHF in these 4 years in the light novel.

Spoiler for Aria part 1:

-Because of her power, the church of light appointed her as holy maiden
- Being forced into hero's party member and there is also 2 more member in that party.
One is a powerful A class male warrior/knight and the other is a female wizard who specialize in attacking spell.
- Wazu also want to come with aria but always being beaten and bullied by hero by telling him that he will be a burden if he comes along. This makes aria resent the hero even more and she always remember this in the journey with the hero.
- In the journey, aria also notice that the hero also have good quality too and also capable to show kindness to other... if it was a women of course. He is kind to all women and there is so many women who feel affection toward the hero in this journey. The kindnesss that hero show to aria is more special and of course aria also realize it too but she doesn't care. In her eyes it's look like that the hero is acting and she is more busy thinking about the future. She clearly loathe him in this LN
- If she came back and choose wazu in the end, the hero will surely do something to wazu and the holy church also support hero in this matter too of course. She realized that she is still to weak right now and swear that she will get stronger in order to protect wazu.
- After this she train really hard and also built connection with other people (royalty,etc) so in the future she can counter whatever the church throw at her and wazu. By the end, she is already much stronger than the hero. Even if all of her connection cannot help her with this, she gladly throw everything away and go elope with wazu. She also realized that "wolf in the sheep clothing" sister is strong beyond normal and she will also help her too if it was for the sake of wazu. Together the three of them will leave the capital and live somewhere else.
- After she finally defeated the demon king, she think that the demon king is not a big deal. Yes it was a hard battle, but it wasn't as hard as she thought. She was happy that she will finally able to return to wazu after all this time.
- After the parade, the hero suddenly in the balcony of the castle declared that he want to take the holy maiden as his wife, which makes aria go "What the heck is this guy is saying?". She also deduced the situation quickly that by showing it in the front of the people and the king it was impossible for her to turn down the hero's proposal. This is when wazu ran away before the hero tried to kiss aria.
- Her answer? A good PUNCH to the hero's face and then she said it in front of everyone "Sorry, but i have to decline your offer". She then jump from the balcony and then run into wazu's house while thinking about her journey from the beginning until the end. After all this time she finally can be together with wazu only to be greeted with a piece of paper in his home. (You know what written inside that paper)
- After some moment of confusion and question the true meaning of that paper she deduced that maybe wazu is there watching the moment between her and the hero, but he run away before he can see aria punch the hero.
-She bolted out from the house and then prepared to go to search for wazu...ALONE.
-She saw kagane in front of the gate and also saw her fully prepared to go on to a journey too. She knew that kagane will also search for wazu, then this will be the fight between the two of them. The one who found wazu faster will be the winner. Then start the journey of aria in order to search for wazu....

Feeling sleepy right now. Will continue later...zzzzz

Whoa.... when the author said there would be changes, I didn't expect such a huge divergence from the WN.

Breimn · 2017-04-10, 15:31

Wow! Thanks for spoilers! Looks like author improved the thing.

Nabcake · 2017-04-10, 15:33

Ugh the WN sounds horrible, is the current translator translating the WN or the LN?

Breimn · 2017-04-10, 15:35

The webnovel, not even the chinese translated the LN so you wil have to buy the LN yourself.

shogoki_vnz · 2017-04-10, 17:12

Well I'm ok with the changes on Aria for the LN version, because man, if you told me that the hero has a Kouki like personality and still she fall in love with him, them the MC really dodged a bullet there.

Ruki0089 · 2017-04-10, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by runset

This is a quick summary of what happened to CHF in these 4 years in the light novel.

Spoiler for Aria part 1:

-Because of her power, the church of light appointed her as holy maiden
- Being forced into hero's party member and there is also 2 more member in that party.
One is a powerful A class male warrior/knight and the other is a female wizard who specialize in attacking spell.
- Wazu also want to come with aria but always being beaten and bullied by hero by telling him that he will be a burden if he comes along. This makes aria resent the hero even more and she always remember this in the journey with the hero.
- In the journey, aria also notice that the hero also have good quality too and also capable to show kindness to other... if it was a women of course. He is kind to all women and there is so many women who feel affection toward the hero in this journey. The kindnesss that hero show to aria is more special and of course aria also realize it too but she doesn't care. In her eyes it's look like that the hero is acting and she is more busy thinking about the future. She clearly loathe him in this LN
- If she came back and choose wazu in the end, the hero will surely do something to wazu and the holy church also support hero in this matter too of course. She realized that she is still to weak right now and swear that she will get stronger in order to protect wazu.
- After this she train really hard and also built connection with other people (royalty,etc) so in the future she can counter whatever the church throw at her and wazu. By the end, she is already much stronger than the hero. Even if all of her connection cannot help her with this, she gladly throw everything away and go elope with wazu. She also realized that "wolf in the sheep clothing" sister is strong beyond normal and she will also help her too if it was for the sake of wazu. Together the three of them will leave the capital and live somewhere else.
- After she finally defeated the demon king, she think that the demon king is not a big deal. Yes it was a hard battle, but it wasn't as hard as she thought. She was happy that she will finally able to return to wazu after all this time.
- After the parade, the hero suddenly in the balcony of the castle declared that he want to take the holy maiden as his wife, which makes aria go "What the heck is this guy is saying?". She also deduced the situation quickly that by showing it in the front of the people and the king it was impossible for her to turn down the hero's proposal. This is when wazu ran away before the hero tried to kiss aria.
- Her answer? A good PUNCH to the hero's face and then she said it in front of everyone "Sorry, but i have to decline your offer". She then jump from the balcony and then run into wazu's house while thinking about her journey from the beginning until the end. After all this time she finally can be together with wazu only to be greeted with a piece of paper in his home. (You know what written inside that paper)
- After some moment of confusion and question the true meaning of that paper she deduced that maybe wazu is there watching the moment between her and the hero, but he run away before he can see aria punch the hero.
-She bolted out from the house and then prepared to go to search for wazu...ALONE.
-She saw kagane in front of the gate and also saw her fully prepared to go on to a journey too. She knew that kagane will also search for wazu, then this will be the fight between the two of them. The one who found wazu faster will be the winner. Then start the journey of aria in order to search for wazu....

Feeling sleepy right now. Will continue later...zzzzz

Meh..... Author ruin his story.... Tsk... It's good thing this got one NTR... But he clearly want make it as misunderstanding...
Dropped...

WyrdMonger · 2017-04-10, 17:30

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Originally Posted by Ruki0089

Meh..... Author ruin his story.... Tsk... It's good thing this got one NTR... But he clearly want make it as misunderstanding...
Dropped...

Aren't you just looking for rage fuel?

Ruki0089 · 2017-04-10, 17:42

Damn right!! I was looking for rage fuel!!! I want mc rage about it!! I truly hoping for complete revenge!!! Not something like cheap misunderstanding like this!!
Kill that childhood friend and trash or won't letting that trash go and let him be happy with his childhood friend bitch.... Author is truly wimpy... Tsk...

WyrdMonger · 2017-04-10, 17:55

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Originally Posted by Ruki0089

Damn right!! I was looking for rage fuel!!! I want mc rage about it!! I truly hoping for complete revenge!!! Not something like cheap misunderstanding like this!!
Kill that childhood friend and trash or won't letting that trash go and let him be happy with his childhood friend bitch.... Author is truly wimpy... Tsk...

Sorry the web novel is done. And unless we create a device that lets us travel to Web Novel worlds (with chainsaws and corrosive elemental shotguns in hands), or chat with the author, we'll have to painfully accept it. No matter how much we want to break the 4th wall, and unleash Hyperion's robots.

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Off-topic:
Just how many mediorce revenges are there in WNs? Because I have a feeling they are quite common.

DevilHighDxD · 2017-04-10, 17:55

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Originally Posted by Ruki0089

Damn right!! I was looking for rage fuel!!! I want mc rage about it!! I truly hoping for complete revenge!!! Not something like cheap misunderstanding like this!!
Kill that childhood friend and trash or won't letting that trash go and let him be happy with his childhood friend bitch.... Author is truly wimpy... Tsk...

You should read Chinese wn than, most MC literally just kill people for disrespecting them and is extremely revenge driven.

Ruki0089 · 2017-04-10, 18:09

Nah, that's not what I looking for...

Garn · 2017-04-10, 18:16

With those changes are already 2 different characters

WyrdMonger · 2017-04-10, 18:22

Aside from making Aria not a weak minded whore, does the LN have major improvements over the WN?

kampfer91 · 2017-04-10, 18:59

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Originally Posted by TemhotaTech

Aside from making Aria not a weak minded whore, does the LN have major improvements over the WN?

Which mean Wazu 's harem have no excuse to torture Aria

And that is what WN funny to begin with .

rantaid · 2017-04-10, 19:28

i had enough of one kouki hero from arifureta. the LN changes sealed the deal. i'd rather see aria fallen to mellowed hero or cheap scenario who turn aria slowly to tsundere toward hero, melancholic and then head-over-heel during journey cause of circumstance (saved by him or he showed her his reliable side, or even rape is ok!) .

the background story relationship between aria-wazu and hero of LN just make wazu even more dweeby than wn.

2017-04-10, 14:22	Link #82
Kaito Yamakage Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007	I've seen so many people try to define NTR I wouldn't be surprised if someone has written a book on it. I just take the literal meaning of the word "to be stolen", applying to both actually being stolen and implied feelings of being stolen. If you get down to it you could write some confusing as fuck scenarios for where either or wouldn't work so the best way to define it is just based on if someone is feeling (character or reader) NTR'd because of whatever shit went down regardless of whether their feelings are justified. Like Tanaka the Wizard, everyone thinks that's NTR, but a lot of it is pretty borderline PoV stuff, it's intentionally written that way. __________________

2017-04-10, 17:42	Link #93
Ruki0089 Yandere Otoko Ruki-tan Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Earth 616	Damn right!! I was looking for rage fuel!!! I want mc rage about it!! I truly hoping for complete revenge!!! Not something like cheap misunderstanding like this!! Kill that childhood friend and trash or won't letting that trash go and let him be happy with his childhood friend bitch.... Author is truly wimpy... Tsk... __________________

2017-04-10, 18:09	Link #96
Ruki0089 Yandere Otoko Ruki-tan Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Earth 616	Nah, that's not what I looking for... __________________

2017-04-10, 19:28	Link #100
rantaid Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Indonesia	i had enough of one kouki hero from arifureta. the LN changes sealed the deal. i'd rather see aria fallen to mellowed hero or cheap scenario who turn aria slowly to tsundere toward hero, melancholic and then head-over-heel during journey cause of circumstance (saved by him or he showed her his reliable side, or even rape is ok!) . the background story relationship between aria-wazu and hero of LN just make wazu even more dweeby than wn. __________________ http://www.fanfiction.net/u/2496168/Rantaid https://www.fictionpress.com/~rantaid I like Netorare.

2017-04-10, 14:32	Link #85
runset Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011	This is a quick summary of what happened to CHF in these 4 years in the light novel. Spoiler for Aria part 1: -Because of her power, the church of light appointed her as holy maiden - Being forced into hero's party member and there is also 2 more member in that party. One is a powerful A class male warrior/knight and the other is a female wizard who specialize in attacking spell. - Wazu also want to come with aria but always being beaten and bullied by hero by telling him that he will be a burden if he comes along. This makes aria resent the hero even more and she always remember this in the journey with the hero. - In the journey, aria also notice that the hero also have good quality too and also capable to show kindness to other... if it was a women of course. He is kind to all women and there is so many women who feel affection toward the hero in this journey. The kindnesss that hero show to aria is more special and of course aria also realize it too but she doesn't care. In her eyes it's look like that the hero is acting and she is more busy thinking about the future. She clearly loathe him in this LN - If she came back and choose wazu in the end, the hero will surely do something to wazu and the holy church also support hero in this matter too of course. She realized that she is still to weak right now and swear that she will get stronger in order to protect wazu. - After this she train really hard and also built connection with other people (royalty,etc) so in the future she can counter whatever the church throw at her and wazu. By the end, she is already much stronger than the hero. Even if all of her connection cannot help her with this, she gladly throw everything away and go elope with wazu. She also realized that "wolf in the sheep clothing" sister is strong beyond normal and she will also help her too if it was for the sake of wazu. Together the three of them will leave the capital and live somewhere else. - After she finally defeated the demon king, she think that the demon king is not a big deal. Yes it was a hard battle, but it wasn't as hard as she thought. She was happy that she will finally able to return to wazu after all this time. - After the parade, the hero suddenly in the balcony of the castle declared that he want to take the holy maiden as his wife, which makes aria go "What the heck is this guy is saying?". She also deduced the situation quickly that by showing it in the front of the people and the king it was impossible for her to turn down the hero's proposal. This is when wazu ran away before the hero tried to kiss aria. - Her answer? A good PUNCH to the hero's face and then she said it in front of everyone "Sorry, but i have to decline your offer". She then jump from the balcony and then run into wazu's house while thinking about her journey from the beginning until the end. After all this time she finally can be together with wazu only to be greeted with a piece of paper in his home. (You know what written inside that paper) - After some moment of confusion and question the true meaning of that paper she deduced that maybe wazu is there watching the moment between her and the hero, but he run away before he can see aria punch the hero. -She bolted out from the house and then prepared to go to search for wazu...ALONE. -She saw kagane in front of the gate and also saw her fully prepared to go on to a journey too. She knew that kagane will also search for wazu, then this will be the fight between the two of them. The one who found wazu faster will be the winner. Then start the journey of aria in order to search for wazu.... Feeling sleepy right now. Will continue later...zzzzz

2017-04-10, 15:31	Link #87
Breimn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015	Wow! Thanks for spoilers! Looks like author improved the thing.

2017-04-10, 15:33	Link #88
Nabcake Junior Member Join Date: May 2014	Ugh the WN sounds horrible, is the current translator translating the WN or the LN?

2017-04-10, 15:35	Link #89
Breimn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015	The webnovel, not even the chinese translated the LN so you wil have to buy the LN yourself.

2017-04-10, 17:12	Link #90
shogoki_vnz Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Astera	Well I'm ok with the changes on Aria for the LN version, because man, if you told me that the hero has a Kouki like personality and still she fall in love with him, them the MC really dodged a bullet there.

2017-04-10, 18:16	Link #97
Garn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016	With those changes are already 2 different characters

2017-04-10, 18:22	Link #98
WyrdMonger Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Alberta	Aside from making Aria not a weak minded whore, does the LN have major improvements over the WN?