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Old 2016-02-22, 17:26   Link #81
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@Rieyay: I'm pretty sure Ophis isn't dying. We've had plenty of death-flags, and yet none of the good guys have died yet (thankfully). But something might still happen, short of her actually dying, so just brace yourself.
Yeah but this isn't Ophis' first death-flag. She had one before but Ishi had a change of mind. This gives her a higher chance of death I guess.
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Old 2016-02-22, 18:49   Link #82
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Issei more strong with a banana? From my point of view I think perhaps not be true, since only the Dragons banana likes (that wrong was listen to this) and does not increase you more power, as we can see it in the only Asia v20 gave him a banana only Crom by this want it now to your first comment to try the banana was "Ummn Delicious " never could see an increase in their aura truth? But if ichei in the future tell us that bananas makes more strong to The dragons would be something very surprising, while what they say about Ophis and his presumed death, according to some rumors say that only Ophis she change change of roles with issei ( She this coma and not issei) since at a time may need the help of issei maybe yet this confirmed nothing
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Old 2016-02-22, 19:10   Link #83
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Just a thought but what if Ophis uses her power in her injured state to put Issei into Diabolos Dragon form to defeat Apophis, against his protests of course. This ends up draining her strength making her much weaker, eventually leading to her death. A pain worse than death, how about Issei's pain by feeling guilty for the death of Ophis, which changes his views.

That probably won't happen but I still think something bad will happen to Ophis. I think she will die and will be replaced by Lilith living at Issei's place and with Lilith retaining some memories of being complete Ophis. Death Flag + Author mentions volume 21 will be much darker + didn't the author mention there will be a epilogue in volume 22? Anyhow it doesn't look good for her.
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Old 2016-02-22, 19:33   Link #84
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Just a thought but what if Ophis uses her power in her injured state to put Issei into Diabolos Dragon form to defeat Apophis, against his protests of course. This ends up draining her strength making her much weaker, eventually leading to her death. A pain worse than death, how about Issei's pain by feeling guilty for the death of Ophis, which changes his views.

That probably won't happen but I still think something bad will happen to Ophis. I think she will die and will be replaced by Lilith living at Issei's place and with Lilith retaining some memories of being complete Ophis. Death Flag + Author mentions volume 21 will be much darker + didn't the author mention there will be a epilogue in volume 22? Anyhow it doesn't look good for her.
Maybe Ishibumi comes up with shit like transfering Ophis' consciousness to Lillith's but it wouldnt be the same. Ophis will most likely die ;_;
My body which was more than ready for Vol21 contains now raw fear
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Old 2016-02-22, 19:53   Link #85
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I highly doubt Ophis will die.If she will,it wouldn't be in the preview.
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Old 2016-02-22, 19:55   Link #86
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I can only say that if Ophis dies in this volume will be very sad to see, not the ophis if not for that will be a great loss for issei and his team, and in the fight against Trihexa it needed though as they say here the fact that the v21 is very dark can mean a lot of large losses and this perhaps mean a great story in es you volume
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Old 2016-02-22, 20:34   Link #87
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I still think Ophis will get a mana power transfer from Lilith to stay alive after her injuries / possibly sustaining more. Or more like sharing some of her energy.
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Old 2016-02-22, 20:40   Link #88
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@Beast: We aren't fully serious when talking about banana power-up for Dragons - you know that, right? Please don't take it so seriously. And by the way, Ise can be counted as a Dragon because he's a Heavenly Dragon host. After Volume 12, it's even more so, since he now he has a body made of Great Red's flesh and is considered a mini-True Dragon. There's also the part in EX where he appears in the form a 100 meter long gigantic Dragon.

@Bigmac: I really hope that what you said there doesn't happen.
Edit: One post late.
@Gary: Well, as long as Ophis is still alive. And in situations where a complete Ophis would be needed, Lilith and Ophis could just combine their powers.
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Old 2016-02-22, 20:44   Link #89
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If something does happen to Lilith Ophis better start doing that ponytail from then on for quality control and justice's sake
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Old 2016-02-22, 21:02   Link #90
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If something does happen to Lilith Ophis better start doing that ponytail from then on for quality control and justice's sake
Someone finally talking some sense around here.
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Old 2016-02-22, 21:10   Link #91
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If Ophis dies, but we still get Lilith, somehow that'd piss me off more. Dunno why. ._.

Don't take the twins away from me Ishi.
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Old 2016-02-23, 05:45   Link #92
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Spectre Dragon egg in vol 20,maybe that egg for revive ophis ,ishibumi sensei may have a goal to put the eggs in human world,BTW any spoiler about lilith?



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Old 2016-02-23, 06:17   Link #93
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We wont get any spoiler till 18th March at earliest (since v21 release date is 19th March).
Apparently Ishibumi thought he would have to spread volume 21 into 2 books. But luckily he maintained it within 1 book (except the v21 will be quiet long). So Im guessing v21 will be approximately 400 pages long just like v5 and v9.

And the fourth arc will finally finish.... It sure was a long story arc. 3 years 6 month if we count from v13 or 3 years if we count from v14. V22 will be both the epilogue of story arc 4 and a prologue of story arc 5 apparently. Story arc 5 being the final story arc.
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Old 2016-02-23, 08:43   Link #94
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Yep, the possibilities of Ophis not dead is there, but Ishi has raised the flag to half a pole... I'm still on the premise of her being alive, though, with Azazel has promised Lilith to meet Ophis and the Dragon God wanted to see a dragon born from an egg.

For the length of the arc, I agree. It is very much like the Fourth Shinobi World War arc in Naruto (which lasted the longest). From what I can infer, the fifth story arc will give closing to the entire haremette's story and the conflicts of the Alliance (If the Malebranche will indeed be the bad guys).
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Old 2016-02-23, 08:55   Link #95
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So there won't be a Destruction God Shiva Arc? I was kind of looking forward to that, too.

And yeah, that's a pretty good point about Azazel's promise to Lilith and also the part about the Spectre egg.
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Old 2016-02-23, 09:14   Link #96
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So there won't be a Destruction God Shiva Arc? I was kind of looking forward to that, too.
Yes there will. The last arc will likely feature the Malebranche + Shiva or whoever the Hindu antagonist will be as the enemies.
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Old 2016-02-23, 09:23   Link #97
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So even though it'll be called "Destruction God Shiva Arc," Shiva might not really be the main antagonist for the arc?
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Old 2016-02-23, 09:26   Link #98
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samehow i still think azazel died in war or after war


The Destruction God Shiva arc afterworld vol 13 ishibumi sensei maybe this vol for started that arc

a traitor,if we dont have a traitor in this vol,maybe vol 22 will be full oppai,ecchi, vali interested with ramen,
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Old 2016-02-23, 09:27   Link #99
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I was hoping for Shiva to be an anti-villain rather than a straight-up villain, which he has shown this shade since his first appearance (opposing our heroes out of necessity, things like that), and Malebranche being tricksters, yet they can hold on their own in a fight (in Inferno, they almost outsmart Dante and Virgil for F's sake ).
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Old 2016-02-23, 09:29   Link #100
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So even though it'll be called "Destruction God Shiva Arc," Shiva might not really be the main antagonist for the arc?
You're asking things no one can answer but Ishibumi himself. All we know is that the final arc revolves around Shiva, and the Malebranche will probably be a subplot of villains. Like we had with Hades during the Hero-faction arc, but on a much greater scale.
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