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Originally Posted by tsunade666
Now I understand what you mean. But can't they just suicide their way to cathedral? if Call of Home a skill is not allowed with skill restriction on the zone but it looks like battle is allowed inside the guild hall of hamelin. With Tohya attacking the ninja guy.
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They could still suicide, but they could do that anyways, Hamelin isn't guarding them closely enough to prevent them killing themselves to escape as it is. Far too much time unsupervised. So Hamelin seems to be relying on the unpleasantness of dying to keep their prisoners from doing it to themselves. So exit restrictions if available would still increase security, and reduce the need for guards.
They can use skills, so I'm pretty sure that the reason they can't use Call of Home is simply that it's not available until a higher level. It being a level 30 or so skill would preclude the beginners from using it. Indeed, I think that the anime screwed up with the scene of Akatsuki and Henrietta a couple of episodes ago. I get that they were attempting to foreshadow Shiroe individually banning Hamelin guild members from the guild building, but they ended up implying the ability to individually set the combat and skill restrictions which is something I'm fairly sure was not in the novel.
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Originally Posted by darksassin
I think the situation of the beginners were similar with Serara. Nothing would stop them from hunting the beginners back if they ran (before Shiroe execute his plan). The Hamelin Thugs probably have added the beginners into their friend list, and like in Serara's case, they would know where the beginners were if they are in the open (Many didnt know that the once decorative scenery have become real building, as shown in Serara's case).The thugs can just drag them back into the guild hall without killing them, but instead inflicting massive pain like what Naotsugu did to Schreider in the end. So it is possible the thugs thought that measure was enough.
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The threat of that is almost certainly what they were partly relying on. The problem is that if you can keep some people you don't want leaving the guild all at all from leaving period, then why not do that and not have to go to the hassle of chasing them down if they run? This isn't like Susukino where one guild controlled everything and they could hunt down deserters at their leisure. Someone can slip out unattended, unregister with Hamelin, join a different guild, and Hamelin would have a difficult time coercing them to rejoin Hamelin.
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Originally Posted by Suryce
There is a simple way around the apparent plothole: nothing proves that a blacklist exists for exit restrictions, and with a bit of speculation it's easy to assume there is indeed none.
The "Entry/Exit restriction: None" text is not shown to be the blacklist itself. It even says "none", not "nobody", and I assume the translation is correct. It's natural to assume that this text bubble refers to vague conditions like "Guild members only". The blacklist could be either a separate or a sub-feature.
Now then, we can also assume that the same options aren't available for both Entry and Exit restrictions. Because, for the exit restriction to make sense and to not be an absurd abusive power given to the guilds (trapping players in a building), it has to be a form of protection that stop direct prejudice to the guilds, which could work with conditions like "Exit restriction: Inventory clear of Guild items". But there is no prejudice possible in a specific player being who they are when they exit the place, thus a blacklist for exiting doesn't make sense and would be abusive.
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That would be the most sensible thing. The problem is that if entry and exit restrictions exist, and a zone owner can individually blacklist people from entry, but does not have a matching list for exit, then that's something that really needs to be stated in the series to close the plot hole.
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Originally Posted by aohige
Or another possibility, that exit restrictions simply means you cannot use convenient methods to teleport out of the zone, using recall spells or death - and not a restriction to using the doors to another zone.
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That would be a rather odd setup, death should always be a possible means of teleport, and recall spells one would expect to be covered under general skill usage.
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Originally Posted by Kyosuke_Nanbu
also, since Building purchase is a new feature.There is no guarantee it haz new feature allow more contro
Not to mention, the guild room existed before the Catatrope so it follow the game rules and developers won't allow a guild master to trap players inside Guild room without good reason
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That would be another plausible way of going about it. The problem again though is that it would need to be actually stated to close the plot hole.
Really, it'd be a relatively small plot hole pretty easily ignored, except I've encountered someone who ostensibly read the novels claiming that that Minori couldn't leave the guild hall because the guild master had set exit restrictions. Faced with the utter lack of evidence for such restrictions being in use or being a concern in escaping, he's turned towards vehemently claiming that buying the guild hall gave Shiroe the ability to override the setting on the individual guild halls, and thus he overrode the settings so that Minori could leave. So I'm trying to see if anyone knows anything that would definitively close the plot hole.
