Shin High School DxD Volume 4 Discussion

[Emperor of D.]

Originally Posted by XFire

Baalberith, maybe (still waiting for a reason why he lost to Sairong). Verrine wasn't all that far above where Rias should have been based on her fight with Fenrir, though, and she had a ton of backup piling on holy damage

And she doesn't actually seem to have been hurt that much even though the winners were exhausted.

In volume 24, Issei and Vali was scared when they first sensed Verrine's aura. As for damage from holy aura, it didn't seem to be that much. Also the only one that seemed to be exhausted was Rias due to her Balor form stamina consumption.

[godz]

and defeated mahabali, who launched attacks at the level of infinite blaster ... mahabali must exceed 80% fenrir

[Lucidrago]

@Xfire The official reason is that Balberith was fighting like Oppai Dragon. I could believe that had Sairaorg dodged every one of his attacks. But looking at that illustration he clearly took damage from Balberith and at the same time was using Breakdown the Beast. Balberith's power should have completely destroyed Sairaorg's defense in my opinion. So yeah he was pretty much nerfed.

@Dragon Sin Well Balberith wasn't the final boss. Plus Hades being the god of the dead may be able to sense death or something like that allowing him to know when an attack is coming even before the attack is even fired. And he may have some other hacks being in the Top 10.

@Emperor of D Well that were basically an unknown in the fight against Mahabali. And because of their talent and power, they could likely wipe a god team out that was unprepared. Rias and the others clearly did their research on how they fought and designed a strategy to counter Verrine by basically coming at her from all sides and wearing her down bit by bit until Balor Rias could freeze her. Xenovia's and Irina's holy attacks as well as Akeno's Holy Lightning did not hurt her that much but would work better than non-holy attacks of the same level because Verrine was a devil.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Emperor of D.

In volume 24, Issei and Vali was scared when they first sensed Verrine's aura. As for damage from holy aura, it didn't seem to be that much. Also the only one that seemed to be exhausted was Rias due to her Balor form stamina consumption.

That was Baalberith, not Verrine.

Same to @godz, the one actually fighting mahabali was Baal.

[godz]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

@Xfire The official reason is that Balberith was fighting like Oppai Dragon. I could believe that had Sairaorg dodged every one of his attacks. But looking at that illustration he clearly took damage from Balberith and at the same time was using Breakdown the Beast. Balberith's power should have completely destroyed Sairaorg's defense in my opinion. So yeah he was pretty much nerfed.

@Dragon Sin Well Balberith wasn't the final boss. Plus Hades being the god of the dead may be able to sense death or something like that allowing him to know when an attack is coming even before the attack is even fired. And he may have some other hacks being in the Top 10.

@Emperor of D Well that were basically an unknown in the fight against Mahabali. And because of their talent and power, they could likely wipe a god team out that was unprepared. Rias and the others clearly did their research on how they fought and designed a strategy to counter Verrine by basically coming at her from all sides and wearing her down bit by bit until Balor Rias could freeze her. Xenovia's and Irina's holy attacks as well as Akeno's Holy Lightning did not hurt her that much but would work better than non-holy attacks of the same level because Verrine was a devil.

if I am not mistaken now in the mahabali team there were asura gods, gods with enormous experience in battle for their mythology and who were prepared to face the team of indra ... so gods with enormous experience in battle fell before the combination of baalberith and verrine so that now they fell with a weaker group, rias balor is strong I don't deny it but it doesn't take away the feeling of forced defeat of verrine ... the only positive thing we can get out of this is that now that verrine and baalberith are they joined the DxD team not only to recover their level of volume 24 but also to become stronger, there will be no more nerfed for them.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by godz

if I am not mistaken now in the mahabali team there were asura gods, gods with enormous experience in battle for their mythology and who were prepared to face the team of indra ... so gods with enormous experience in battle fell before the combination of baalberith and verrine so that now they fell with a weaker group, rias balor is strong I don't deny it but it doesn't take away the feeling of forced defeat of verrine ... the only positive thing we can get out of this is that now that verrine and baalberith are they joined the DxD team not only to recover their level of volume 24 but also to become stronger, there will be no more nerfed for them.

They knew how powerful Indra was. They couldn't have guessed that a team that was on a losing streak could have recruited two Super Devils. And they probably just charged in expecting it would be another easy victory.

Balor Rias was the only one who could definitely land a significant hit on Verrine. And even then she had to freeze her to do so and gave her the chance to surrender or surely die. It was a well-coordinated team effort that did Verrine in mostly due to her inexperience in combat.

In Volume 24, the purpose was so we would know that Balberith and Verrine were the real deal by easily defeating a team.of Asuras. It was the same reason Ishibumi had Regalzerva easily kill Great Red.

There was no need to have Indra easily defeat Mahabali like that. That was just to showcase his power but also to show Mahabali's will and determination by having him cut off Indra's arm. Remember when Kiba and Xenovia cut off Sairaorg's arm in Volume 10? Something like that.

It's up to Ishibumi to decide whether he wants these fights to be one-sided curbstomps or one-sided matches where we know one side will obviously win but Ishibumi will try to make it as competitive as he can.

[godz]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

They knew how powerful Indra was. They couldn't have guessed that a team that was on a losing streak could have recruited two Super Devils. And they probably just charged in expecting it would be another easy victory.

Balor Rias was the only one who could definitely land a significant hit on Verrine. And even then she had to freeze her to do so and gave her the chance to surrender or surely die. It was a well-coordinated team effort that did Verrine in mostly due to her inexperience in combat.

In Volume 24, the purpose was so we would know that Balberith and Verrine were the real deal by easily defeating a team.of Asuras. It was the same reason Ishibumi had Regalzerva easily kill Great Red.

There was no need to have Indra easily defeat Mahabali like that. That was just to showcase his power but also to show Mahabali's will and determination by having him cut off Indra's arm. Remember when Kiba and Xenovia cut off Sairaorg's arm in Volume 10? Something like that.

It's up to Ishibumi to decide whether he wants these fights to be one-sided curbstomps or one-sided matches where we know one side will obviously win but Ishibumi will try to make it as competitive as he can.

"All of God Mahabali’s attacks were so powerful that even the shockwave produced by a slash from his Godly Sword was enough to blow up a mountain on the field! Xenovia said as she gulped.

“…Watching all of these attacks, this truly feels like a mythological-scale battle.”

Just like what Xenovia said, the field’s terrain and scenery were blown away by attacks from every single one of them…Movies and CG graphics were like a joke compared to them. Rias said.

“And I’ve heard that they’ve strengthened the field’s durability since the prelims. So for them to be able to destroy the field… Once again, we can see how scary the War God and Godly Asura Tribe can be.”

…Shit. Each of their attacks felt as strong as my Dragon Deification’s ace move, [Infinity Blaster]! Ddraig, who was inside me, said." shin dxd 2

Mahabali is said to be textual that his attacks were equal to Issei's infinite blaster, that nothing changes him and whoever beat this God was Baalberith, before we speculated that Issei would use axa or true dxd G to defeat Baaleberith and who defeated him at the end was Sairaorg .

We also looked over at it. The situation on the field was currently being displayed. The field appeared to be the site of a ruin…and in the centre of the destroyed remnants, the Prince of the Asuras, Mahabali-san was kneeling on the ground. His body was covered in wounds, and he was gasping for his breath.

<<This is difficult to believe! As one of the candidates tipped to win, Mahabali-senshu is actually kneeling on the ground right now! The ones who have forced him into such a state — are the mysterious players who have suddenly joined an ordinary team!>>

The announcer also seemed to have become excited by the scene before his eyes as he said that. Mahabali-san was looking at — two people. One of them was a woman. To be more precise, she seemed to be a girl who was of similar age to us judging by her appearance. She had long jade-coloured hair, and she seemed to have a cheerful air about her. The other one was a man. He had copper-red hair that was swept all the way back. Not only did he have a tall stature, he also had a very strong physical build. There was no trace of emotion on his face, and he appeared rather cold. Based on his appearance, perhaps he was the same age as us, or maybe a bit older. Unlike the injured Mahabali-san, they were completely unharmed! Mahabali-san’s team had many Asura gods. Even among the god-class beings who were participating, they were considered to be a top-class line-up. As I looked at the venue’s scoreboard, I could see that all of the members of Mahabali-san’s team had retired! The copper-haired youth picked up the flag that was beside Mahabali-san.

[Flag taken.] dxd volumen 24

the point is that many of us had high expectations for the new demons and low with the gods as hades, in the end Hades ended up being the best evaluated of this arc.

Spoiler for dxd volumen 24:

Rias had immediately understood that an anomaly had occurred in the game, and she called us over as well. It was possible that there would be people acquainted with Rias in the VIP spectator room, and so began to make our way over there. It was just when we found a staff member and were about to ask about which VIPs had come to this stadium. —Hmm! A sudden wave of inexplicable pressure hit us! I felt a heavy pressure within my chest for a moment! There was an eerie aura that I had never sensed before. All of us turned around to look across. —Appearing there was the young lady with jade-coloured hair and the young man with copper hair who had appeared just then in the game. From those two people…I could feel an aura that seemed abnormal and bottomless. Cold beads of sweat began to form on my experienced comrades’ skin as they gulped in the face of this immediate pressure alongside me. They approached us. The girl with jade-coloured hair stepped lightly as she moved towards us, and she revealed an innocent smile.

“It’s nice to meet you, [Welsh Dragon]-san, [Vanishing Dragon]-san, and all of you other strong people. —My name is Verrine[1].”

The girl who identified herself as Verrine pointed to the young man behind her.

“The one over there — he’s called Balberith[2].”

…The youth directed his gaze towards us, and a fear that invaded both our minds and our bodies crept along…! What’s going on with that guy’s aura…! H-How is it possible to have such an endlessly deep, strong, and inexplicable aura…!? I thought that I was the only one who felt like this, so I glanced at Vali who stood beside me — beads of sweat could be seen on his forehead as well! That Vali is actually feeling pressure from this man named Balberith! The battle maniac who would normally show a fearless smile and fight with joy no matter how strong his opponent was, was actually…! Upon seeing us like this, Verrine seemed to find it amusing, and she couldn’t help but let out a laugh as she said rather naturally

“Ufufu ♪ Balberith and I—. We seem to be what you’d call [Super Devils].”

[—!?!?]

Everyone was shocked! This was a natural response! They suddenly called themselves Super Devils! However, combining the outcome of the game just then and the pressure that we could feel in front of ourselves, all of that emphasised the authenticity of her words! I had seen Rizevim and Sirzechs-sama when he got serious in the past. My comrades beside me had also witnessed Rizevim, and during the Demonic Beast Riot, they had also seen Ajuka Beelzebub-sama in battle. No one had any doubts about her declaration. Verrine said

“Do you find the name of our team strange? It’s a name that came about after we gathered together, though the name is nothing but a decoration anyway.”

She laughed innocently. The aura exuded by this relaxed and cheerful young girl also felt as though it was bottomless. The youth called Balberith emotionlessly said

“I fought against a god…it wasn’t very much.”

After getting halfway through his sentence, his piercing glare shifted to me and Vali!

“—Will the Two Heavenly Dragons considered to be the strongest in history be worthy of battle?”

It felt as though I was beginning to freeze from deep within. Even though I felt such fear, on the other hand, a strong person was seeking me out, and as a man, I couldn’t help but feel both happy and honoured…! In response, Vali finally revealed that fearless smile of his. Balberith walked past between the two of us.

“I look forward to meeting you in a match.”

Verrine quickly chased after the youth, and she waved goodbye to us as she left.

“See ya ♪”

After waiting until the two of them left, we finally exhaled and took a deep breath! Rias took a deep breath, and then she said

“…They’re truly monsters. It’s been a long time since I’ve felt as though I couldn’t breathe…!”

I asked Vali

“Vali, what do you think?”

Even though the two of them had already left, Vali still kept staring in the direction from which they had both left.

“…There is no doubt that they are Devils. But…it’s scary just how strong they are…!”

Albion and Ddraig also expressed their own thoughts.

[Those two…. What exactly is going on…?]

[So, such things have remained hidden up until now huh…]

This was the debut of the formidable people who had caused even the fearless Two Heavenly Dragons to say such things.

and then they got the nerfed

[B214]

I guess Ishibumi wanted to show the Sun Wukong V17 lecture. Experience and skills > Raw Power. Well probably also because Bal and Verrine had the advantage of joining first time and maybe Mahabali team was underestimating them.

[Sekiryuu12]

Originally Posted by B214

I guess Ishibumi wanted to show the Sun Wukong V17 lecture. Experience and skills > Raw Power. Well probably also because Bal and Verrine had the advantage of joining first time and maybe Mahabali team was underestimating them.

No nivel of underestimating is going to cause this "As I looked at the venue’s scoreboard, I could see that all of the members of Mahabali-san’s team had retired!"

How much of a retard would these guys of Mahabali team need to be to continue underestimating someone after having 2, 3 ,4 of their GOD teammates retired to take thing seriously?

Chronic Retardation?

[B214]

Originally Posted by Sekiryuu12

No nivel of underestimating is going to cause this "As I looked at the venue’s scoreboard, I could see that all of the members of Mahabali-san’s team had retired!"

How much of a retard would these guys of Mahabali team need to be to continue underestimating someone after having 2, 3 ,4 of their GOD teammates retired to take thing seriously?

Chronic Retardation?

You have retards challenging Ise and his friends even when they know they can't win. So yes, i believe they are retards even among Gods.

[godz]

Does anyone remember what FxF means? fairy x?

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by godz

Does anyone remember what FxF means? fairy x?

Don’t think it has been mentioned yet

[Crimson_Emperor]

Fadiru x Ferudora

[syzorst]

Sairaorg vs Balberith Part 1

Spoiler:

Alright, time to continue.

Sairaorg vs Balberith Part 1

Sairaorg and his queen Kuisha was ready but Sairaorg insisted on fighting Balberith. Kuisha says, "If things change, I'll help you at that time". Sairaorg nodded at Kuisha's words. "I know, I'm sorry".

Balberith releases a dense amount of aura from his body and tells Sairaorg, "Lion King, I have one request." Balberith looks back at the Grim Reaper who seems to be more likely waiting behind him.

That senior reaper was Zeno. He was the "King" of Black Satan of Darkness team from Hades that participated in the Rating Game Tournament. Balberith was worried about Zeno and said, "That Grim Reaper, I want you to spare him."

Zeno was surprised at Balberith's words. Balberith continued to speak of his reason. "I don't know what a family is but when I apply their relationship to me from the information I get from the story of Oppai Dragon, Verrine and Zeno are probably what I define as family."

Upon hearing Balberith's words, Zeno was surprised. He shakes his skull which is a characteristic of a reaper that has no centerpiece or flesh, "Oh, you....why are you saying this now in this situation?"

Balberith smiled as he continued, "Thank you for taking me to the Oppai Dragon event in Kyoto. I had fun". Balberith than pointed his fist at Sairaorg, " Even if I die, I'm glad I got to know about Oppai Dragon".

Sairaorg also holds his fist up and points it at Balberith, "Verrine will be fine. If it's Rias, she likely won't kill her if she surrender. If the Reaper also surrender, I won't hurt him."

Regulus then speaks to Sairaorg, "Sairaorg-sama, your father and the first generation have more discretion". Sairaorg replies, "I know, all I have to do is capture Balberith. Sairaorg then ask Balberith, "How do you want to fight me?"

Balberith responds, "I want to fight like Oppai Dragon". Sairaorg smiled and replies, "I heard that answer over and over. Let's do this Regulus!" He and Regulus began to chant.

Regulus!! Release!!]

[Understood!!]

With the shout...a golden and purple aura seeped out from all over Sairaorg-san’s body! Sairaorg-san, and also the lion mark on his chest plate, started to chant.

[This body, this soul, even if it falls into an endless ravine!]

[My Lord and I, we will exhaust this body and this soul to rise up the endless royal road!]

The Lion King armour changed to a magnificent and offensive form!

[Raze, triumph, play, and shine!]

[This is the body of a Demonic Beast!]

[Lodged on top of my fist, is the glorious imperial authority!]

The surroundings were destroyed

[[[Breakdown The Beast, Climb Over!]]]

[cyberdemon]

Did Ingvild do anything this volume. Sadly She hasn’t gotten much pagetime since volume 1...

[godz]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Did Ingvild do anything this volume. Sadly She hasn’t gotten much pagetime since volume 1...

I read out there that ingvild that with his song he strengthened the power of Vali and Issei so that they could give the final blow to Hades and defeat him ... Hades was the final threat of this volume, I also read why you had the ingenuity to defeat Sairaorg, Cao Cao, Tobio, Dulio, Team Rias and only Issei as Vali remained standing.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Did Ingvild do anything this volume. Sadly She hasn’t gotten much pagetime since volume 1...

Who's this Ingvild you speak of?

[B214]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

Who's this Ingvild you speak of?

I wonder who she is.

[syzorst]

Sairaorg vs Balberith Part 2

Spoiler:

Sairaorg was now in his form of Regulus Rey Leather Rex Imperial Purpose. While collecting large amount of power into his fist, Sairaorg charged at Balberith at full speed. This was just like his fight against Hyoudo Issei. At that time in the past, there was a Rating Game between the Gremory team and Beal Team. Balberith started running like Issei in the final battle between Issei and Sairaorg. Yes, from the front, he went straight ahead, just straight ahead! Sairaorg and Balberith fist were stuck in each other's faces! BOOOM!

The blow created from their fist creates a large sound and shook the area! While turning back and blowing out nosebleeds with the shock of each other, Sairaorg and Balberith continue to punch each other head on.

This form of Sairaorg's punching power waa astounding, which is said to definitely exceed Maou class. Balberith is a prodigy who has a unique talent and endurance, while also eating it and frustrating his fist forward.

Balberith was ahead of Sairaorg because of his talent and endured his attacks. Meanwhile Sairaorg had also endured dozens of Balberith's punches, which was a transcendent class. Sairaorg helmet was already crushed and his face was full of blood. Still Sairaorg wouldn't fall, he couldn't afford to fall.

Because he wanted to fight something like fighting Hyoudo Issei, he couldn't just collapse with his pride, with the pride of Hyoudo Issei and with what he got in that fight. He refused to fall.

Balberith also confined to endured Sairaorg's punches and his face was full of blood. His nose was broken and his eyes was swollen. A simple battle, it can be called a rough battle. It's just an exchange of punches. However, such a fight cannot be help but attract allies here. Even the enemy stopped for a moment and wondered. "What are you doing?" But even noticed the powerful beat.

Sairaorg says while punching Balberith's face, "Compared to when you defeated the Prince of Asura, it's a far less intense fight! A battle like violence that relies on instinct and talent, and by itself, you have overwhelmed the gods. Today, you are weaker than what you were."

Balberith's fist hits Sairaorg's face and hangs over. Immediately, Sairaorg rebuilds his posture and pushes an uppercut into Balberith's chin. Balberith seemed unconscious but he regained his posture.

[godz]

Originally Posted by syzorst

Sairaorg vs Balberith Part 2

Spoiler:

Sairaorg was now in his form of Regulus Rey Leather Rex Imperial Purpose. While collecting large amount of power into his fist, Sairaorg charged at Balberith at full speed. This was just like his fight against Hyoudo Issei. At that time in the past, there was a Rating Game between the Gremory team and Beal Team. Balberith started running like Issei in the final battle between Issei and Sairaorg. Yes, from the front, he went straight ahead, just straight ahead! Sairaorg and Balberith fist were stuck in each other's faces! BOOOM!

The blow created from their fist creates a large sound and shook the area! While turning back and blowing out nosebleeds with the shock of each other, Sairaorg and Balberith continue to punch each other head on.

This form of Sairaorg's punching power waa astounding, which is said to definitely exceed Maou class. Balberith is a prodigy who has a unique talent and endurance, while also eating it and frustrating his fist forward.

Balberith was ahead of Sairaorg because of his talent and endured his attacks. Meanwhile Sairaorg had also endured dozens of Balberith's punches, which was a transcendent class. Sairaorg helmet was already crushed and his face was full of blood. Still Sairaorg wouldn't fall, he couldn't afford to fall.

Because he wanted to fight something like fighting Hyoudo Issei, he couldn't just collapse with his pride, with the pride of Hyoudo Issei and with what he got in that fight. He refused to fall.

Balberith also confined to endured Sairaorg's punches and his face was full of blood. His nose was broken and his eyes was swollen. A simple battle, it can be called a rough battle. It's just an exchange of punches. However, such a fight cannot be help but attract allies here. Even the enemy stopped for a moment and wondered. "What are you doing?" But even noticed the powerful beat.

Sairaorg says while punching Balberith's face, "Compared to when you defeated the Prince of Asura, it's a far less intense fight! A battle like violence that relies on instinct and talent, and by itself, you have overwhelmed the gods. Today, you are weaker than what you were."

Balberith's fist hits Sairaorg's face and hangs over. Immediately, Sairaorg rebuilds his posture and pushes an uppercut into Balberith's chin. Balberith seemed unconscious but he regained his posture.

Sairaorg said what we all think, nerfed.