KanColle - Episode 8 Discussion / Poll

[Top Sergeant]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

Actually, if you look closely at the crest on her neck early in the episode, it is actually not the Chrysanthemum but the Sakura emblem, which was also the case in the game.

Ah, you are quite right! I re-watched the episode and took a close look, and that was not the chrysanthemum as I had thought.


The second time through I did notice, in the Nagato bath scene, that she quickly looked around just before she grabbed the squirrel. That just made the scene even more funny!

[JokerD]

I thought Yamato not being allowed into the water was a reference to her causing a tsunami when she was first launched due to her displacement

[blakstealth]

Jesus lawd, this episode. Yamato.....is a GODDAMN BEAUTY. HOLY SHIT. And her cannons.....HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.

And I should've known everyone in this show has their own quirk, Nagato included. x3

[Estavali]

That steak Akagi had reminds me of Yamaguchi Tamon (aka Tamon-maru) =3. Yamaguchi was a big-eater too and when asked about the food he had on the Yamato, his reply was, "Delicious, but the servings are too little."

From hence on, by order of Admiral Yamamoto, he was given two steaks instead of the usual one for his meals

[The Green One]

I often see comments about scenes where the girls magically are or aren't wearing their armaments. Does it really matter? It's not that big a deal.

[Tactics]

Yamato in swimsuit episode ...

At least, Yamato smile at the end-- simply priceless ...

[Benigmatica]

While Yamato was the main focus on this episode, Nagato basically stole it with her hidden cute side!

Thank you Mutsu for reminding everyone that Nagato likes cute things!

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by The Green One

I often see comments about scenes where the girls magically are or aren't wearing their armaments. Does it really matter? It's not that big a deal.

It makes the previous scenes where they had to deploy from special facilities questionable.
If they don't need those facilities at all they could have simply gone 'and suddenly weapons are there' from the very beginning and would have saved budget as well as time for more story content.

[frodonk]

Watching this episode only made me wonder more about the reaction of those old men from the IJN during WWII about the portrayal of their pride and joy almost 70 years to the day she was sunk.

I mean, would they be delighted or horrified that their moefied superbattleship is now so elegant, beautiful and homely? Would they be happy that their ships are still known and recognized all throughout the world (but mainly by kancolle otakus), although they're now scantily clothed bishoujos and even more so when they're damaged?

Nah I already know the answer to that, being the old fogies that they are I assume that they'll be horrified and have a heart attack or something.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by frodonk

Watching this episode only made me wonder more about the reaction of those old men from the IJN during WWII about the portrayal of their pride and joy almost 70 years to the day she was sunk.

I mean, would they be delighted or horrified that their moefied superbattleship is now so elegant, beautiful and homely? Would they be happy that their ships are still known and recognized all throughout the world (but mainly by kancolle otakus), although they're now scantily clothed bishoujos and even more so when they're damaged?

Nah I already know the answer to that, being the old fogies that they are I assume that they'll be horrified and have a heart attack or something.

Not quite what you think it is.

[frodonk]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Not quite what you think it is.

Just one of thousands who fought during that time, though I guess that's nice, I can even imagine him saying "that's a nice girl" in japanese while looking at the picture lol.

[Houreki]

Nagato stole the whole episode to me

[Ithekro]

Yamato has remained famous. It is the other ships that are getting some limelight (no Naka, not just you).

Interestingly, for a Space Battleship Yamato concert coming soon, Bandai Channel was streaming the most recent Yamato 2199 film yesterday. In it is a direct reference to Hotel Yamato, where they go literal. Inside a copy of Battleship Yamato is one of the Hotels (in the Amazon rainforest)! (meanwhile space battleship Yamato is nearby in orbit.)

Space Battleship Yamato also uses the Type 3 shells to great effect in the film.

[Estavali]

Originally Posted by frodonk

Watching this episode only made me wonder more about the reaction of those old men from the IJN during WWII about the portrayal of their pride and joy almost 70 years to the day she was sunk.

I mean, would they be delighted or horrified that their moefied superbattleship is now so elegant, beautiful and homely? Would they be happy that their ships are still known and recognized all throughout the world (but mainly by kancolle otakus), although they're now scantily clothed bishoujos and even more so when they're damaged?

Nah I already know the answer to that, being the old fogies that they are I assume that they'll be horrified and have a heart attack or something.

Your so-called old fogies are actually more worried about Kancolle becoming a radicalizing factor =/

WWII Japan is still a controversial issue in that country. A good example are the debates that were raised over "The Eternal Zero" and more recently "The Wind Rises". In a Asahi Shimbun article in May 2014, it reported that folks who had experienced the war feel uneasy over how Kancolle's popularity has helped pushed sales of model ships, worried that this interest in military-themed models would lead to have a glorified view of the military itself within the younger generation, making way for a pro-war attitude.

(On a sidenote, it's not just Kancolle that has this effect on model sales. Tank models also reported a similar boost with Girls und Panzer =3).

Of course, this article brought feedback from a good many TTKs. Putting the imho rather farfetched "Interest in models = Interest in joining the military" theory aside, the article ignored that it was because of interest in Kancolle that many people began to learn and understand the history behind the Pacific War, and the consequences that followed. No long after, someone submitted a counter-argument to the paper, of which included this excellent passage:

"The most important thing is that, by knowing that precious lives would be lost, we would not embrace a right-wing doctrine so easy, nor would we condone war as an end. If our people are left in the dark, apathetic and stop thinking, wouldn't this make it even easier for us to walk down the road to war? "

On a more cheerful note, a perhaps unintended side-effect of Kancolle's popularity is that the grandchildren of former IJN personnel began to take interest in their grandfathers' experiences. A good example would be the increase of requests for the wartime duty records of ex-soldiers by their descendants. In the past such requests were usually made by veteran societies for archiving purposes or for ex-military men or their kin for autobiographies. In fact, the Ministry of Health, Labour, and Welfare reported that requests fell from 898 made in 2005 to 403 in 2011, and then up to 639 in 2013. While folks from the Ministry "aren't sure what's the reason for this increase", they believe it's probably due to the interest generated by the "Eternal Zero" movie as well as this game.

So coming back, yes, maybe veterans might be bemused or even disturbed that the ships on which they had braved storms and Allied military might are now... cute girls. And then again they might be just shrug and even chuckle, knowing that this is this and that is that, that the cute girls their grandchildren are obsessed with are not the warships that they had been with until the very end. Who knows, maybe now they might even find it easier to chat with the kids, with the warships and shipgirls as a new common ground. Like, say, Gramps puffed up with pride how the ship he was on would definitely be a fine woman and that sort of thing =3

To automatically assume that every one of them would just foam at the mouth and flip shows prejudice towards the old imho =3

Btw, just for laughs, a Japanese fan tweeted sometime back about how his late grandfather was a signaler on the Yuubari, the experiences he shared with his grandson.... and how he, the grandson, had, errr, "used" the R-18 Yuubari doujin he bought at C85 (thrice at that too) and was now too ashamed to admit it at his grandpa's grave

[bhl88]

Originally Posted by Estavali

Btw, just for laughs, a Japanese fan tweeted sometime back about how his late grandfather was a signaler on the Yuubari, the experiences he shared with his grandson.... and how he, the grandson, had, errr, "used" the R-18 Yuubari doujin he bought at C85 (thrice at that too) and was now too ashamed to admit it at his grandpa's grave

lol I'd like to see that doujinshi....

Wait, "used"?

[Gravitas Free Zone]

Originally Posted by bhl88

Wait, "used"?

I hope he didn't "use" anything directly onto the doujin.

This reminds me of a more general version of what was alleged to have happened with Chuck Yeager when Strike Witches came out.

[risingstar3110]

First it was Yamato's "I'm not a hotel" . Then it's Zuikaga. Then KTKM-sama in swimsuit. Followed with Nagamon. and capped with Yamato again in full rig...

*die, no regret*

*revive myself when heard about Poi Kai Ni next week*

[Requiem-x]

Originally Posted by risingstar3110

First it was Yamato's "I'm not a hotel" . Then it's Zuikaga. Then KTKM-sama in swimsuit. Followed with Nagamon. and capped with Yamato again in full rig...

*die, no regret*

*revive myself when heard about Poi Kai Ni next week*

Nothing about Yamato in a swimsuit? Or how about most of the destroyers becoming subs, apparently

Oh right, Kitakami-sama went with a surprisingly showy one. Also, gotta say I was surprised seeing Ooi getting some breast envy when she's often portrayed as being stacked.

[Sheba]

Kitakami's swimsuit is the best swimsuit in this episode.

[Estavali]

Originally Posted by Requiem-x

Nothing about Yamato in a swimsuit? Or how about most of the destroyers becoming subs, apparently

Oh right, Kitakami-sama went with a surprisingly showy one. Also, gotta say I was surprised seeing Ooi getting some breast envy when she's often portrayed as being stacked.

I was a bit disappointed with Yamato's swimsuit tbh. I expected it to be a bit more... filled-out at the top =3. Maybe the thing about the pads is real after all...

*hears thunder in the horizon*

Here they come again *dives into the nearest hole*