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and i'm not sure how you saw the battle against blueno, but to me, luffy in gear 2 seem like a catwalk. luffy completely overpowered him. even in regular form, luffy seem to be pretty even already against blueno. only thing was he got surprised by his "door door" ability. but if not for the surprise, i believe luffy would've beaten him anyway w/o going gear. but since he's anxious to get the battle done and save robin, he finished him off as soon as possible, thus gear mode. right now, i'm feeling luffy gear 2 is about even with lucchi. that's not putting lucchi down, but come on, he's not gonna be anywhere near the tougher opponents that luffy will face in the future. and unless you feel like luffy is gonna go gear crazy from now on by going gear 10-20, i don't think we should take gear 2 lightly. we still have yet to see how strong or the limits that geart 2 has to offer. to me, its just too soon to see a 3. that's why i don't really see luffy in 3 this arc against lucchi. off course, that's just my opinion. you could disagree if you want. |
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so chill out. man, i swear neodrag. you're trying to do nothing but attack my posts to try to prove your superioriority on OP or something. this is a discussion board for people to post their thoughts and opinions, but i have heard nothing but ridicule and putdowns about my posts from you. i could be wrong about some of the things i said, but from the way you talk is as if everything you said is hard facts, which it isn't since we all don't know what's gonna happen yet. so lighten up |
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2006-03-15, 21:26 | Link #47 |
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Gah, I'm late in replying due to some computer problems I had... but that's over with now.
Anyway, great chapter! I was really impressed with how hard Sanji tried to fight Califa despite the fact that he was at such a big disadvantage. True, his chivalry stopped him from really clobbering her, but I think it might be of some help at some point, especially if it's true that he'll help Nami take on Califa. But man... that gal's got one freaky DF if it somehow turned Sanji into glass.... And so Chopper takes on Kumadori. Not really a big surprise, since Chopper usually ALWAYS fights the wierdos (Chessmarimo, Gedatsu, etc.). Still, I just wonder why the "octopus guy" used Tekkai to prevent himself from committing suicide, yet he DOESN'T use it to block Chopper's attacks. But then again, the battle between those two just started, so we might see him do something crazy like using Shigan with his hair soon enough... or maybe he'll rape poor Chopper with it instead. Who knows? And Gear 3... whoa. I won't say much about it now since we'll obviously see what it's fully capable of when Luffy fights the Pigeon Guy, but I had figured that he had turned small because he used Gear 3 to ram his body against the door or something, making his body short (like so many similar gags used in cartoons, heh). But if Gear 3 really DOES make him small, then we'll be in for a very, very interesting climactic battle.... And finally, the mini-story! So Croc and Mr. 1 decided to stay behind, eh? Well, I suppose it makes sense that the two guys with the most devestating defeats in Alabasta wouldn't want to bother breaking out of jail when they'll most likely just get their butts kicked again. But I just wonder what the others will do? Maybe they'll become Marines like Jango did (Goldenweek can just use her Color Traps to make the commanding officers hire them after all), or maybe they'll do what Hachi, Wapol and Gedatsu did and open up their own business? It would be so awesome if the latter were true... |
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And you need to remember that on a board your thoughts and opinions may be challenged by others that disagree with you. You act as if I actually insulted you or just simply said you were wrong without any facts from the manga to back up argument. So try to remember that I posted on more than one occasion that there is a possibility that I of course could be wrong in that like always it's up to Oda. So sorry if you feel that you can't back up your statemens in the good fun of a discussion where someone has an opinion different from yours. Quote:
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2006-03-15, 22:19 | Link #49 |
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you know what neodrag, forget about it. talking to you has truly been nothing but a drag you twist everything i say and disregard anything i say so that what you think is the absolutely truth. as i said, we all talk her to post our opinions. what i wrote were what i thought about the issue and how i see things. but no, you everything you write is always right. well, you know what, everything you say has about as much proof as what i wrote, no more no less. you know as much as i do about the status of luffy or what he'll do. instead of constantly accusing me of not backing up my statements, which i actually did if you take the time to try to understand what i actually wrote, you might have.
just a few to prove my point. saying luffy is not worn out among things just because he has his little bento in his pockets, which he already ate. yeah, it energizes him for a bit. now he used gear 3, and what, no more food. the guy is gonna get more and more worn as the upcoming battle approaches. is it that hard to believe that he won't be able to use gear 3 like he wanted? and when was i implying that luffy wasn't about to use gear 3 on bleuno? he obviously was when he bite his finger. see what i mean, you don't try to read what i wrote, just glance thru and fill in the blanks with what you want to think i wrote. and then you said luffy is hungry and that's not taking any toll on his strength? you're just filled with contradictions, just writing to make sure what you wrote is always right if luffy is hungry, he'll become weaker. that was already shown before he hopped on the rocketman. geez, here i was just trying to talk a lil OP, but somehow i have to get into this nonsense argument with someone who saying i can't back my argument, yet he's the one who can't. face it man, everything's an opinion until it happens. your guesses are as good as mine. i have no problem with others' opinion, and yet you're saying that i'm not one who has problems with the opinions of others. show me where i have made such claims? IF you're talking about yourself, then i agree, since that's exactly what you can't accept, dissing every opinion i have. AND THAT'S THE TRUTH |
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2006-03-15, 22:53 | Link #51 |
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look, i'm not gonna geek out about OP like you are. i'm not the type of guy that's gonna spend like most of the day studying OP like you're geekin out to be. and from the looks of it, you study OP a lot more than me, and that's you. no problem with that. but from the way you speak, you are putting me down and disregarding my opinions, because they don't favor how you feel. and the last time i checked, i don't see you backing up anything you say, yet you're saying i don't and again, i have no idea what you're saying about me having problems with other people's opinions. i do on the other hand have a problem with someone who's preaching about honoring other's opinions when he's actually the one who's doing all that.
again i ask, how did i have a problem with other's opinions? i would like anyone else on this board to comment on this to see who's right about this besides neodrag, since we're nothing but bickering back and forward. evidently you feel like you're right and i'm wrong. and me vice versa. this is not about the content of the chapter, so i have no problem if you feel differently about what's happening or what's gonna happen in the future. but to flat out say my opinions are wrong? prove it then. but for the rest of the posters here, i just want an unbiase opinion of who you think is wrong with the attitude between me and neodrag? |
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And you seem to act as if it's possible that my memory span is not simply that of one day, and also that I still have the volumes on hand for a quick look through. And how exactly is me bringing up the fact that Luffy is the one who came up with the two gear levels, didn't seem that worried about them much, was willing to use 3rd Gear against an opponent weaker than Lucchi, etc. not backing up my statements? Cause you still haven't provided as much in terms of explaining why Luffy wouldn't use 3rd Gear till another arc. On the respect of people's opinions. I don't see how something as simple as you being so uptight about a person challenging your opinion showing that you don't respect their's can be that hard a concept to grasp. Challenging your opinion and wanting a response from you is actually still respecting your opinion. There's a difference between agreeing and respecting obviously. So sorry for exercising my right to voice a challenge to your opinion much less beginning out just simply bringing up a possibility. Quote:
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2006-03-15, 23:25 | Link #54 |
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first of all, i love OP. i love this anime probably more than any of the other ones that i watch. but at the end of the day, its just that, an anime. yes there are times when i might have miss something or whatever, but that's as i said, i'm probably not as religious about it as you do. at least that's the feeling i get.
now... if its just about talking one piece, i have absolutely no problem with that. but like here, you're misquoting me. i never said he won't use gear 3 for sure. and if you go back and read my posts, you'll find that i've never said such a thing. all i wrote was that its POSSIBLE that he won't until later arcs, hence the reason why i said oda has been constantly teasing us about gear 3. and the reason i say its possible that he won't is because using it could worn him out in this stage of his level-up. remember me saying he was trembling after using gear 2? those are just some of my observations. i never claimed that he'll definately not use it til next arc. i just said its possible. to the lucchi thing. yeah, the guy looks strong, but truthfully we really don't know HOW STRONG he really is yet compared to luffy. remember the first encounter with luffy, the strawhats were unsure about themselves and as a result were weak. now again, please don't take words out of my mouth again. for all i know lucchi might even be a gazillion times stronger than he was then. see, i never claimed any truth. most of what i said were maybes and possibilities based on what i read and how i perceived it. HEY, if you feel that luffy will go berserk in gear 3 against lucchi? fine, if that's how you feel. i don't disregard that idea, its possible. but from the sound of it, you made it seem like its impossible that luffy could beat him in gear 2, which we don't know. he might use gear 3 in the next battle. we don't know. all i said was its a POSSIBILITY. and that's what these discussion boards are for. that's my thought. i never claimed anything or mocked anybody. but... like you, i do want more people to get into OP to see how good it is compare to other animes out there. and more people to talk about it and what they think. that's the gist of it. |
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On Lucchi, it still remains that Lucchi is somewhat suggested to at least be strong enough to warrant Luffy's action where Blueno being the person that isn't his main focus for a fight still was nearly given the chance to experience 3rd Gear. And the phrase I'm guessing you are trying to put down is put words in your mouth. How exactly did I do that? Cause I'm the one who is using actual quotes where what I put down in response is clearly my opinion. Quote:
So could you explain how I made it seem like I was speaking in absolute or accusing you of speaking on absolutes cause it remains that on multiple accounts I maid clear that I consider my opinion fallible. You still accused me of treating my opinion as infallible fact when I made clear that it isn't the case so many times. |
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2006-03-16, 00:46 | Link #56 |
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wtf are you talking about neodrag??? you being religious about OP meaning you're overboard with it. there's fanboy and there's overboard. and how the heck am i copping out of anything? i said something is possible, never said it definitely will, and that's my exact quote. i never went back and change things. i never made any remarks that isn't true. as i said, you should go back and actually read what i wrote. COP OUT? please. if that's what i wrote, how is it copping out? its a discussion, and i wrote what i think could happen. geez.
and you saying luffy's body not being tired after using gear 2 on blueno, but instead just simply stomach growling: man, forget it. arguing with you is nonsense. here i was just trying to talk a little OP, but you have to constantly call me out and saying cop out this and that. i don't have anything to prove to you. |
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And where exactly did I accuse you of trying to act absolute on your opinion? I only at most criticize you for acting like I was playing the part of the infallible and taking it personally that I disagree with you on something. Quote:
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