To Aru Majutsu no Index - Light Novel - New Testament Volume 9

[Hiss13]

Originally Posted by OH&S

...reads spoilers...

hmm... I don't know...Like everyone else, the first half sounds plausible but the second half completely lost me...

I will treat it with a grain of salt since proper spoilers usually come out within a week of release.

For comparison's sake, when did NT6's spoilers come out? It was released on the same date as NT9 will be.

Didn't those come out a week before the release date?
In all honesty, let's remember that there were fake spoilers for NT8. I haven't read the spoilers yet so I do not know how it is.

[mark1246]

you know after reading the comment from other fans reading the spoilers, I highly STRONGLY agree with my OPINION PIECE (back on pg 2, sorry if a little long) about Time Travel and Parallel World about being a "MCGUFFIN", i mean I really love the concept, but hate it only use to torture a person or use to re-write that either the hero or villains win. I still thinks it work better in games (Mario & Luigi DS partner in time, I'm sorry that the only example that game into my head) or use in an actually ARC not use once to Troll with the MC.

Like I agree with some user in the previous post that I sorta do like the first half, but the second half kill me in term of the story. I mean Othinus just turn good because she see Touma conviction.....BULLSHIT. I'm sorry back when Fiama fought Touma, he was starting to change because he started to view touma differently, BUT he still wanted to DESTROY THE EARTH, and didn't change until touma beat him.

Othinus.....I JUST DON'T BELIEVE SHE WOULD CHANGE BECAUSE.....I don't even care, I really hope this is fake, because it stated that touma understand her now...!? I...I don't know because 1. What the hell is her desire, a world of peace? 2. Your A VILLAIN, WE SEEN YOU IN THE PAST FEW VOLUME BEING REALLY a bitch, But still true to your character. If this was a character who was originally good but turn evil because of circumstances I would understand that because she Still have traits of good within her. BUT SINCE WE SEE HER START EVIL AS ONCE, WE CAN sympathize with her.

Anyway that my rants >.< good night

[OH&S]

You know what, the entire scenario presented in the spoilers fails at the first hurdle.

The NT9 blurb states that "...Othinus has become a god, so Kamijou Touma is no longer worth even the slightest interest."

The spoilers seem to go against that statement immediately.

Regardless of what actually happens in the story, it never goes against the blurb (even NT7's original scenario)...

[Miraluka]

Calm down mark, is it true that if the spoilers are true Othinus would end as one of the weakest villains of the series but isn't confirmed... yet

[mark1246]

Originally Posted by Miraluka

Calm down mark, is it true that if the spoilers are true Othinus would end as one of the weakest villains of the series but isn't confirmed... yet

you know, I could kinda see it like Nt9 would be the bane of Vol 9 & 10 in the other serious Because EVERYONE LOVE THAT Sports Festival Arc .......sarcasm people then NTvol 10 Would be freaking awesome and wash away the awfulness of NT vol 9

OK being serious here Miraluka, It not that Im hating the spoilers or anything, But like touma said in the spoilers, Nothing was Achieve, I mean come on, this would be a waste of a volume where nothing is accomplish and WE HAVE TO PROBABLY WAIT 5-6 MONTH FOR THE NEXT VOLUME.....you see my point mate. I know it call cliff hanger and suspense, but not to this degree.

The only time that I glad the fake spoiler were true was back in NT4 with the White Rhino Beetles. I was PISS AT THOSE SPOILERS, but when i read the novel, i really did like it. so you never know.

but to be honest, i hope the spoiler are fake until next week

[Kenju of the Right]

you know, I could kinda see it like Nt9 would be the bane of Vol 9 & 10 in the other serious Because EVERYONE LOVE THAT Sports Festival Arc

why yes, that arc was great

[Chaos2Frozen]

NT6 was released three weeks before the street date.

Right around this time.

[dniv]

Originally Posted by mark1246

you know, I could kinda see it like Nt9 would be the bane of Vol 9 & 10 in the other serious Because EVERYONE LOVE THAT Sports Festival Arc .......sarcasm people then NTvol 10 Would be freaking awesome and wash away the awfulness of NT vol 9

OK being serious here Miraluka, It not that Im hating the spoilers or anything, But like touma said in the spoilers, Nothing was Achieve, I mean come on, this would be a waste of a volume where nothing is accomplish and WE HAVE TO PROBABLY WAIT 5-6 MONTH FOR THE NEXT VOLUME.....you see my point mate. I know it call cliff hanger and suspense, but not to this degree.

The only time that I glad the fake spoiler were true was back in NT4 with the White Rhino Beetles. I was PISS AT THOSE SPOILERS, but when i read the novel, i really did like it. so you never know.

but to be honest, i hope the spoiler are fake until next week

I couldn't contain myself and gave in and thought these were the best spoilers I ever saw... so I completely disagree... I don't think this makes Othinus look weak as a villain at all (if it's true) given that this is a frickin' amazing summary and everything always is way better when it isn't a summary...

I thought that the plot sounded amazing throughout everything that happened... and the last part sounded the best to me... Rather than the whole point of the arc being for nothing (that's bullshit), the differences would be concerning the important character from a previous NT volume that made an entrance in the spoilers and Touma's personality change... I wanted this volume for Touma's insane character development, and if what was in that spoiler actually happened, that would be the most insane character development change that could ever damn happen in the world, so that would be a huge difference... That really wouldn't be as if nothing happened, because his personality would be different.

You're missing the point then... This could be fake or real... I loved it though... That character development was liquid heaven for me... more insane than Haruhi even... I love it!...

Well, either way... either this was written by Kamachi, or the real version is better, so I won't be disappointed

Also, it's possible he just didn't understand what exactly was achieved... and that's why __ happened... that would make sense too...

Though the only thing in the spoilers that I have a hard time imagining, is what he could write in the afterword in this volume to apologize for the weirdness to his editor, because that frankly seems impossible...

Also, if it's real, then I'm pretty sure the character development Touma got from that couldn't have happened in any other way...

Also, there were some parts of it that made it sound viable so I don't know...

[OH&S]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

NT6 was released three weeks before the street date.

Right around this time.

More support to the spoilers I guess. Well it has more chance of being real than the fake NT8 spoilers did; that one seemed off from the get go. These spoilers are okay except for the part where they end as a cliffhanger...

But I'm sure that Kamachi who made NT6 an awesome read will deliver in the end.

[Chaos2Frozen]

See, the reason why these spoilers/synopsis rubs us a bad way is because by nature they're short and to the point, so any development would appear to be very sudden or "Ass-pulling".

Especially the character development or change of heart scenes.

[zaeraal]

Regardless if the spoilers are fake or not, it is already a given it will end like this:

[Chaos2Frozen]

Heh, it would be funny if this leads to a massive trolling of both Mikoto and the new Misaka fanbase lol.

[BossKagaxx]

And here I was expecting for IT's power to be realized. Guess I really have to wait long for that.

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by zaeraal

js06 posted a "plausible" summary of NT9
http://pastebin.com/bjp9Nkff

Spoiler for size:

Touma wakes up lying on his back in a world filled with nothing but black. Othinus tells him he failed and that the world has ended.
He can’t accept what happened, so he turns his back on her and wanders around looking for Index and the others. No matter how long he wanders, he can’t find anything. He despairs, but returns to Othinus in hopes of doing something to the source with IB.
Othinus tells him IB is the greatest barrier to her goal and that killing him would be easy, but then IB would transfer elsewhere and create another uncertain element. She says she will instead crush his heart to neutralize IB and then raises the lance to recreate the world.
Touma wakes up in what looks like a model house. A nearby TV says he is the enemy of the world and that he is currently hiding out in the 23 wards.
Othinus appears and tells him this is a world where the “viewpoint” has been changed and that he will die if he does not escape. (In this world, the incarnation of destruction side of him is emphasized rather than the hero side.)
He realizes several people are approaching and tries to hide, but smokes bombs are thrown in and he is forced to escape.
He decides to check on his parents and realizes he is in Shibuya. He rescues Fukiyose, but she is hostile to him and injures him. He runs away and finds Aogami who injures him further. He somehow manages to escape again.
He enters an open area with a large monitor, but doesn’t notice Komoe approaching who stabs him in the back with a blade. He collapses and the monitor shows his parents giving a speech criticizing him
Komoe goes in for another attack, but time freezes and Othinus appears again. She asks him if there is any reason to risk his life to protect people in this world where no one looks at him properly.
He says there is and she says she will show him another world. Time begins again, Komoe swings down the blade and he loses consciousness.
He wakes up to find himself in a classroom at his school. He finds that everyone views some stranger as “Kamijou Touma” and sees this person living his everyday life. (In this world, others do not recognize him)
Othinus once again asks him if this world is worth protecting and he says it is. She laughs at him and asks him if he is really Kamijou Touma while looking so pathetic. He doesn’t know what to say and she throws a class photo to him and says she will return him to the original world if he can choose the real one. She tries to destroy his identity.
He sees through the danger of her question and says that “I am Kamijou Touma”. This irritates her, so she shows him more and more worlds with different “viewpoints”.
While experiencing the different worlds, Touma’s mind is gradually worn down, but he also gains more and more experiences from them. Those experiences tell him Othinus is not recreating the world from the ground up. She is simply adding on a filter that changes the viewpoint. He wonders if there is a way to resolve the situation, but Othinus realizes what he is thinking, says he has not despaired because he still has hope, and shows him a certain world.
In that world, he sees Sherry when Ellis did not die, Agnese who was not orphaned, Index, Kanzaki, Stiyl, etc. living together when Index did not have to have her memories erased, and all the other people who he had met. They are all living happy lives.
Othinus says this is a world where everyone was saved and everyone lives happily. She says such a world requires for him to not exist and that his continued existence in the world will destroy it all before long.
If Othinus kills him, that destruction will be 99% avoided, but given the powerful bad luck that brought him through so many deadly situations, the most certain way to 100% avoid it would be for him to commit suicide.
As long as he continues to exist, misfortune will arrive for everyone else. He becomes convinced that he is evil and he wanders around a city modelled after AC to find somewhere that will surely kill him.
On the way, he sees Accelerator, LO, the Sisters, and Mikoto together. He sees Item missing none of its members with Fremea. He also passes by Index and speaks with her, but she does not remember him.
Finally, he finds a large building, takes the elevator to the roof, and just before he jumps, he is kicked from the roof by a girl who looks like Misaka #10031. He hits a window washing platform and escapes death.
He and the girl move to the dorm room he would have lived in in that world and the girl says she is the great will within the Misaka Network. She says she saw his plight and came to save him and that Othinus is changing the world using software that alters the settings of the living and the dead. Hearing that, he assumes Othinus has updated the Einherjar spell using the lance’s power.
The will of the network is free from the spell because she is a thought life form that has recorded the time of all 20,000 Sisters (including the dead ones) and so she is a vague existence that does not fall under the category of the living or the dead.
Including the dead Sisters means she has recorded the time going into a few seconds after death.
The will of the network points out Touma has been looking away from this world’s contradiction (the fact that on one remembers the original world) and explains that Othinus has been making them forget because she fears having those he has saved gathering together and saving him. However, he has begun to accept this world where everyone was saved, so he does not react.
The will tells him he can sometimes prioritize his own convenience over others’ and asks him if it doesn’t bother him that Othinus stole his appearances. Touma thinks to himself about it and reveals his inner thoughts. (With five or six pages of nothing but dialogue.)
Hearing that, the will is relieved and says it was worth speaking to him. Touma decides to face Othinus once more, but for his own sake rather than for someone else’s.
As he leaves the room, the will says they will meet again in the original world and disappears.
He confronts Othinus in the schoolyard of his school.
Seeing him, she gives up trying to use the world to defeat him and instead says she will do so directly.
Touma is easily killed and, just as he experienced many different worlds, he repeatedly challenges her and is repeatedly killed.
Once he has been killed 10031 times, and is still challenging her just the same, Othinus says she has lost interest. Suddenly, she is assaulted by an intense headache.
She is confused because Touma should have had his mind worn down more, but he likens it a replaying a video game. Even if two people repeat the same time and experiences over and over, the mental state of someone repeatedly challenging a powerful foe and the person repeatedly defeating a weak foe are different and so Othinus’s mind would have been worn down more.
Also, he says that, since she can recreate the world, she must have been continually changing it in search of the world she wanted. He realizes that she had tried to make him destroy himself and had not killed him because she had not completely abandoned the option of returning the world to normal with IB.
She says she will kill him and completely rid herself of that option and then create the next world. She attacks, but is shocked when he evades it.
After being killed by her over and over, he had gained the experiences needed to analyze her attack pattern. He says his experience points have surpassed a certain point and he can now see through her movements. He evades all of her attacks and destroys the lance with his right fist.
She says she still has a method of killing him. She fires a crossbow and ten arrows appear overhead.
He evades 9 of the 10, but she uses herself as bait to hit him with the tenth while he also hits her. Everything but his head, shoulders, and arms is blown away.
He failed to evade the last arrow because he had only analyzed the attack patterns from the effects of the lance (100% success) and had not analyzed the attack patterns from the effects of the fairy spell (100% failure).
As he awaits death, he tells Othinus he hopes she can use his IB well when recreating the world.
Othinus finally realizes she wanted someone who understood her true desire and tells him he is worthy of understanding her. She entrusts her desire not to the world she had originally lived in, but a world in which Touma lives. She then recreates the world.
Touma wakes up and realizes he is arriving at Sargasso and confronting Othinus.
He is confused because the world has been reverted to the just before the lance was used, but he realizes something is wrong with Othinus and that she is not resisting as the attacks fired by Mikoto and the others blow her away. He realizes this is the original world she has handed over to him. He realizes that he was simply forced to suffer through all those different worlds yet it had not reached any kind of conclusion, so he chases after her.
Long-distance attacks from the Christian alliance rain down on her, but Touma blocks them with his right hand, surprising her.
She had planned to accept her death and he asks her what she is doing. She explains that the fairy spell and the lance have created an unstable state, that she is losing her powers as a magic god, that the stake Ollerus stabbed into her is tormenting her within her body, that not even destroying it with IB will heal it, and that the other Gremlin members will arrive to save her even if she is captured, so she plans to accept her death.
Touma feels her situation is unreasonable, so he prioritizes his own convenience and announces he will protect Othinus even if it makes the res of the world his enemy.

I personally don't believe it (even though I was wrong last time when I didn't believed it..)

...........ah.... wow.......... speechless..... if this is true. i will speed read the last volume even if I had work.

[belatkuro]

We did receive fake spoilers for NT8 before we got the real ones and the fake ones were pretty well written. So yeah, I'm going to be skeptical on this one.

[LazyHunter]

While I like the idea of the parallel universes Touma saw I wouldn't really like that kind of rushed ending. Hopefully these spoilers are fake. How would Touma notice that a girl looks like Misaka 10031? Wouldn't she be identical to Mikoto and all the other Sisters?

[zibi88]

Originally Posted by LazyHunter

While I like the idea of the parallel universes Touma saw I wouldn't really like that kind of rushed ending. Hopefully these spoilers are fake. How would Touma notice that a girl looks like Misaka 10031? Wouldn't she be identical to Mikoto and all the other Sisters?

That's why its called parallel universe stuff and people might look similar to the ones you know from your own world it doesnt mean they will look identical... besides maybe the misaka network will looks a little bit different compared to Misaka's (like Last order or misaka worst)... similar but with slight other traits...

the pic is fun fake but this might happen which is scary.... and the spoiler... well it might be true or it might be fake... who really cares its fun and people have stuff to talk about till acutal book appears and says how it goes

personaly I would like something other to happen... like learning a little bit about the IB orgins and learning about the other things inside touma that IB holds in suppression (the invivisible thing...and the other thing that could stop it)..... maybe some little past touma (where he got IB and the other things from) maybe his past about misaki.... and I wonder if this was in parallel universes with different viewpoints...then would misaki still recognize touma in all of them... as she can read minds she might read what really is happening just like misaka network will did...


anyway everything might be just a fanfic.... or it really is happening :P (someone got his hands on early release) time will tell ^^

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by LazyHunter

While I like the idea of the parallel universes Touma saw I wouldn't really like that kind of rushed ending. Hopefully these spoilers are fake. How would Touma notice that a girl looks like Misaka 10031? Wouldn't she be identical to Mikoto and all the other Sisters?

That is actually the point where things got weird for me.

Unless of course... Well, the only thing separating 10031 from the other sisters is that she's a bloody corpse on a dirty alley Maybe that's how he recognized her.

[Bakaizer]

well the 2nd half of the plausible spoiler is something iwanted to be fake.
would it be great that othinus will restore toumas memory

[NeutralZero]

Wait that image is the real deal right?
Damn... even a magic god can't escape the kami-yan disease...
to think there'll be an image where she looks vulnerable...
and number 10032 seems to be a lucky number for survivla...