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Old 2004-10-06, 16:16   Link #21
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I don't want Naruto to become a mini-Jiraiya. I want Naruto to be himself, and grow up in his own way, maybe in a slight way reminiscent of the 4th.

But what Naruto really needs to learn is taijutsu and speed.

the 4th was reminiscent to Jirayia since the latter was his teacher
So naruto will look like him one way or another,

besides...he has to learn Jutu's from someone right? he can't just create them himself right now.
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Old 2004-10-06, 16:22   Link #22
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the 4th was reminiscent to Jirayia since the latter was his teacher
So naruto will look like him one way or another,

besides...he has to learn Jutu's from someone right? he can't just create them himself right now.
I don't think that the 4th was much like Jiraiya, apart from having a huge chakra reservoir and being able to summon Gama. He was described as a genius (as opposed to Jiraiya) and was a jutsu genius.

Speaking of jutsu geniuses, why don't you think Naruto could make up some more jutsu of his own? He's already come up with one S-class kage-level jutsu so far.
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Old 2004-10-06, 16:29   Link #23
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I don't think that the 4th was much like Jiraiya, apart from having a huge chakra reservoir and being able to summon Gama. He was described as a genius (as opposed to Jiraiya) and was a jutsu genius.

Speaking of jutsu geniuses, why don't you think Naruto could make up some more jutsu of his own? He's already come up with one S-class kage-level jutsu so far.
Actually, that's two jutsu. Though technically, the first one he refined is actually 'Henge', it's a specialised Henge!
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Old 2004-10-06, 16:32   Link #24
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Speaking of jutsu geniuses, why don't you think Naruto could make up some more jutsu of his own? He's already come up with one S-class kage-level jutsu so far.
he learned that from the scroll..The kage bunshin is the basic...Tajuu kage bunshin is merely a name invented by himself by using a shitload of chakra and thus create thousands of bunshins...It's not a seperate Jutsu.
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Old 2004-10-06, 16:35   Link #25
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I refer to the A-class Sexy no jutsu, with which he laid flat the most powerful ninja ever, the Sandaime, known as the God of Shinobi, and his S-class Harem no jutsu, with which he laid flat a special elite jounin, Ebisu.
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Old 2004-10-06, 16:42   Link #26
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I refer to the A-class Sexy no jutsu, with which he laid flat the most powerful ninja ever, the Sandaime, known as the God of Shinobi, and his S-class Harem no jutsu, with which he laid flat a special elite jounin, Ebisu.
Oh lol my bad, i knew I was forgetting something

yeah you could say he invented that

my loss
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Old 2004-10-06, 16:52   Link #27
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daikbakfu
What's that? By the spelling you gave it doesn't seem japanese to me, and I don't recall hearing anything that resembles that.

Anyone care to elaborate?
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Old 2004-10-06, 17:00   Link #28
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What's that? By the spelling you gave it doesn't seem japanese to me, and I don't recall hearing anything that resembles that.

Anyone care to elaborate?
Im sorry I misspelled..it's daibakufu no jutsu

you can hear it here

(save as, stream won't work)
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Old 2004-10-06, 17:05   Link #29
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What's that? By the spelling you gave it doesn't seem japanese to me, and I don't recall hearing anything that resembles that.

Anyone care to elaborate?
I think he meant daibakufu no jutsu, which was translated in the scanslations as something like "Great waterfall technique"

Anyway, I think part of the point of Naruto's character is that he knows hardly any techniques, but is extraordinarily good at making use of what he has. During the sannin fight, Jiraiya's banter with Oro (and previously Sarutobi and Oro) outlined the theme with their differing views on what makes a good ninja, Oro saying that knowledge of jutsu is key and Jiraiya arguing that basically you need nuts of steel and tenacity. Naruto may not know much taijutsu, for example; compared to Sasuke, Lee or Neji he's a sloppy brawler, but by incorporating what little he knows of taijutsu into his own impromtu style based solely around kage bunshin, he becomes unpredictable and overwhelming (see shukaku fight and early stages of the recent sasuke fight for examples). I think this is one of the key themes of the series and as such I can see Naruto developing much in the same way as he has up until now: in an unorthodox manner, but very quickly and effectively.
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Old 2004-10-06, 19:43   Link #30
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I wouldnt mind seing naruto get a little bit of training from tsunade. shit I mean tsunade can kill anyone if she gets a direct punch on them I would love to see naruto have such a weapon in his arsenal.... but then again tsunade is way stronger than naruto so naruto probally couldnt kill a person in one punch but If he learned how to punch like tsunade I bet he could send some one flying or at least stun them and weaken them no matter how strong they are. or If tsunade taught naruto that jutsu she used on kabuto (the one that makes you move your legs if you try to move your arms and vice-versa) then naruto would kick major jounin, chunnin and gennin ass for sure.
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Old 2004-10-06, 22:29   Link #31
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I'd like to see more summons... I said it before but more frog and toad summons if not anymore animals... Something like a thousand Frog summons where he summons a bunch of low level frogs and toads like the tree frog with teh two katanas that was on a cover awhile back. Maybe even a fox summon...

Right now I think the best student for Kakashi would be Kiba... He has, or atleast has signed, the dog scroll and who better to use it then Kiba...

I'd like to see Naruto's time split between Gai (yay to the green training suit) and Jariaya
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Old 2004-10-07, 02:37   Link #32
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some basic taijutsu for naruto wouldnt hurt and to get up his speed
this gives more power to his kage bunshin useage and the speed for his rasengan

after that he must go under training of jiraiya, and learn some more toad summons, like the one jiraiya summoned to protect naruto from kisame's sword

and i thing he needs to change is his looks he needs to look more badass
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Old 2004-10-07, 07:09   Link #33
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fuck his taijutsu give him edo tensei and shuriken kage bunshin no jutsu and and and doryu taiga !!! and the monkey summon ooh loord
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Old 2004-10-07, 10:38   Link #34
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You think it's possible for one person to have two contracts with different animals? I was kinda thinking Enma was lost because Sandaime was technically the only one known to summon monkeys. Unless Enma had the ability to summon himself into this world and give the contract to someone... interesting. This is a long shot, but Asuma might be able to. But I doubt one can have two contracts, and it's only fitting that Naruto summon frogs.

I do agree on the taijutsu, but perhaps learn a different kind, something with more flow. It might be out of character, but that'd be pretty bad ass seeing Naruto flipping people off their feet and palming the shit out of them.
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Old 2004-10-07, 10:38   Link #35
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Actually, that's two jutsu. Though technically, the first one he refined is actually 'Henge', it's a specialised Henge!
Naruto didn't really create any jutsu yet. He's below that level.
He simply combines two or more jutsu he already knows, and adds a semi-retarded (though perfectly chosen) name.

His Sexy no Jutsu is just plain Henge, where you transform yourself into another item or person.

Harem no Jutsu is just a combination where he uses Kage Bunshin no Jutsu to create tons of himself, and everyone uses Henge to transform into babes.

Tajuu Kage Bunshin is just normal Kage Bunshin, only raised in number.

Naruto can't create Jutsu yet, but if he were smarter he'd think alot about what he does with Rasengan, and maybe discover new ways of using chakra alone as a powerful weapon without using hand seals.
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Old 2004-10-07, 11:16   Link #36
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But what Naruto really needs to learn is taijutsu and speed.

judging from narutos fight with sasuke i say he already have those part covered. anyone other then a sharingan user would of gotten the beating of 10 life times from naruto with the speed and fighting style is uses (which is his own unique style)
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Old 2004-10-07, 11:23   Link #37
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His fighting in that form can not be easily replicated. What he needs is taijutsu for when he isn't 'kyuubiized'. He needs speed training. Just imagine how he would have quicked the crap out of Sasuke were he not naturally much slower than Sasuke and were his fighting skills not brawling-esque. Sasuke was able to dodge because Naruto jumped at him with a fist. Consider if Naruto had actually fought with good taijutsu skills at that speed. Sasuke quite simply would not be able to dodge that as easily.
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Old 2004-10-07, 11:32   Link #38
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judging from narutos fight with sasuke i say he already have those part covered. anyone other then a sharingan user would of gotten the beating of 10 life times from naruto with the speed and fighting style is uses (which is his own unique style)
True. Sasuke's triple sharingan was a huge asset. But Naruto sure is weak in taijutsu without the kyubi chakra. Even Tayuya kicked his ass. Anyway, I think Naruto isn't the type. His strength is in chakra and ninjutsu. Just like Jiraiya...I doubt that old pervert could fight without his jutsu.
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Old 2004-10-07, 12:42   Link #39
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His fighting in that form can not be easily replicated. What he needs is taijutsu for when he isn't 'kyuubiized'. He needs speed training. Just imagine how he would have quicked the crap out of Sasuke were he not naturally much slower than Sasuke and were his fighting skills not brawling-esque. Sasuke was able to dodge because Naruto jumped at him with a fist. Consider if Naruto had actually fought with good taijutsu skills at that speed. Sasuke quite simply would not be able to dodge that as easily.

from what your saying you want naruto to be more like lee and sasuke and have gai fighting style which would make naruto kinda dull seeing how the only way people would say he would have good taijitsu is if he has gai's fighting style. yet the other brawler in the series is kiba but no one says he needs to inprove of his taijitsu(and he was only slighty faster then naruto seeing how naruto was able to dodge most of his attacks).
also it wouldnt of made any difference if naruto fought with any style seeing how sasuke sharingan was the deciding factor to the battle. what good is it if your opponnet can see every single move your going to make b4 you make it and counter moving to your predicted movements. b4 sasuke had a fully develped sharingan he could see narutos moments (i think he like with the mastered sharingan saw in slow motion but without the predictions of the movements) but like stated by lee earlier in the series sasuke body couldnt keep up and naruto beat the shit out of him both above and under water. once sasuke could predict narutos movements sasuke being slower didnt matter. if naruto needed to learn anything is how to fight a sharingan user. or anyone with a bloodlimit seeing how he is weak against them
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Old 2004-10-07, 13:01   Link #40
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I think Buyakugan would be successful against sasukes sharingan. I dont really know the reason but i just got a feeling. And Sasuke doesent know how to use his 3dot sharingan as itachi does.

What Naruto doesent "really" need now is strenght. I think Naruto needs some defensive techniques. After seeing how beaten he gets all the time even though he succeeds, but he allways get almost fainted.
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