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Westlo · 2011-10-15, 01:38

Nagi and Supercell should at least reunite for the Bakemonogatari sequels/prequels

blakstealth · 2011-10-15, 19:15

God, that would be greatness.

Sylphic · 2011-10-21, 09:58

Oh my God, My Dearest has got to be one of most amazing things I've heard.

My favoritest band ever pumps out yet another godly song. In case you guys haven't heard about this yet, a slightly more lengthy cut than the TV version was played on a radio show over here a few days ago. Some people recorded and put it on Youtube!

http://youtu.be/_dQ41IquVr4

Shadow5YA · 2011-10-21, 15:50

Eh, I prefer the ED or the insert song.

blakstealth · 2011-10-24, 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sylphic

Oh my God, My Dearest has got to be one of most amazing things I've heard.

My favoritest band ever pumps out yet another godly song. In case you guys haven't heard about this yet, a slightly more lengthy cut than the TV version was played on a radio show over here a few days ago. Some people recorded and put it on Youtube!

http://youtu.be/_dQ41IquVr4

First 30 seconds is the best.

xsnoopx · 2011-11-07, 12:24

Thanks..for..the..info.

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Azuma Denton · 2011-11-21, 10:13

*hearing single My Dearest...
Ok, please recruit Nagi again, ryo...

Shadow5YA · 2011-11-21, 14:31

I'm still waiting on Euterpe.

blakstealth · 2011-11-21, 18:31

I tried really hard to like Koeda's voice, but it's not cutting it for me. :/

The instrumental is good, though.

Shadow5YA · 2011-11-21, 19:23

I like Chelly's voice though.

Where's my Euterpe single?

blakstealth · 2011-11-21, 19:49

Yeah, she's okay. I wanna her sing My Dearest instead. :P

Von Himmel · 2011-11-22, 01:51

Well, it's not that bad..

It still has supercell's feeling in it albeit pretty different because it's nagi whom I'm accustomed to

Kunagisa · 2011-11-22, 02:25

To be fair, Nagi isn't Supercell's first vocalist either.

Though Bakemonogatari sent the Supercell x Nagi as the "official" setup into overdrive. I feel like koeda had just way too much to live up to, but honestly chelly's voice resonates better with me than koeda so ... Nagi > chelly > koeda.

Azuma Denton · 2011-11-22, 07:43

Yesh, ryo still delivers the great music...
But too bad, IMO, i believe Koeda's type of voice is not good enough to sing ryo's music...

Let's see how Chelly handle ryo's music...

Khu · 2011-11-22, 20:21

Yay, My Dearest is released as a single~

abc0716 · 2011-11-22, 22:21

Just heard the B-side of Guilty Crown OP singles on the web radio station I usually listen.

However, the voice of the new vocalist made me cringe a lot.....

In my opinion, Nagi is the better vocalist, compare with the recent one.

winhlp32 · 2011-11-25, 06:31

http://flaming-june.com/001/lovesong2/

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-5476.html

Looks like we have an idea of Nagi's whereabouts.

She's collaborating with Jun Maeda(everything Key) now.

Varaxis · 2011-11-26, 06:12

Interesting. I just posted some of my opinions on this, on another forum, and also looked up all this info after checking out the single of My Dearest.

I think ryo mainly looks for a vocalist with not only a good sounding voice, but also a wide vocal range, a large lung capacity, and "endurance". His songs seem to be major lung workouts, with a lot of breath/power being put behind each lyric. I imagine his recording sessions being like swim training for athletes, except your vocal cords are getting strained instead of your body.

I agree with the opinions here, regarding where Koede stands compared to nagi and chelly, judging by current works. I rank it that way mainly because I dislike her "resonant lows", which she used in My Dearest, projecting from the back of her throat and bouncing off the roof of her mouth, with her nasal passages blocked. I don't know what to expect with the 3rd album. ryo pairing up with nagi is what got me to follow supercell. I liked the 2nd album, and I like all of chelly's (EGOIST) works. Thinking about it all, I kind of pity Koede, since she has a high standard to meet, kind of like how Halca met sharp criticism, when she filled in for Makii of High and Mighty Color.

Koede has talent and we only have one single to judge her talent on. As a first work, ryo probably hasn't yet "sync'd" up with her, finding out how to make better use of that talent and work around the weaknesses. Who knows what else Koede has; she does seem to also have Sakamoto Maaya quality lows, coming out crystal clear from the bottom of the throat. I think I might grow on her resonating sounds and her habit of "flexing her lung capacity" during long notes, compared to May'n and some US pop stars. She just needs to get rid of the plugged up nose sound. I'm hoping that's just a bad habit of hers. Maybe she's trying to make the most use out of her breath and not letting any escape out of her nose. Hopefully they're working on getting rid of that habit. I also hear a bit of sharp excessive air leaks. In the very first part, there's a leak right after "I'm yours;" there's also excessive leaks during some of the other S sounds. There's still plenty of room for improvement for breath management, using it all for producing strong and clear notes and wasting none of it. Going for such efficiency puts a ton of strain on a singer; that's probably a big reason why ryo went with Koede instead of chelly. It's kind of like learning how to breathe smoothly while swimming (notably the exhale part), which is one skill that separates novices from pros.

My Dearest has a very easy and catchy rhythm that encourages karaoke. Check out the vocal covers for My Dearest and none come close in quality. They simply don't put the same amount of power (breath) behind each lyric, instead only saving it for the last few long notes. I bet a lot of popular singers (ones that make anime songs at least) would also come short, possibly even the ones I mentioned earlier (Sakamoto Maaya and May'n), in terms of power and lung capacity, compared to Koede. I can only think of elite singers, such as Kokia and maybe the vocalists in Kalafina, ones that are praised for vocals alone rather than the rhythm/catchiness of songs, who could really compare. The main vocalist in School Food Punishment puts a lot of power/breath behind most of her lyrics, but she seems to rely on taking frequent sharp breaths to supply that power, while Koede seems to use more of her lung capacity.

Edit: Nevermind. Kokia absolutely spanks Koede in terms of lung capacity [and vocal range]. Kokia's vocals are on a level so much higher than mainstream stuff. I suppose her fault is that she just has a voice that's too mature to appeal a younger generation, while nagi and chelly have mass appeal and Koede kind of is a compromise between the two ranges. Maybe people just like soft gentle feminine voices better, with any vocal skill being a bonus.

Shadow5YA · 2011-11-28, 22:47

The full version of Euterpe is out, and I'm definitely liking it more than My Dearest.

Westlo · 2011-12-02, 00:38

Don't really get the hate for My Dearest, imo it's easily the best faster paced song Supercell has done since the Bakemonogatari ED. I also really think Koede's vocals compliment the arrangement. I do think that Euterpe is the better song and that both Nagi and Chelly are better suited to Supercell than Koede though. I really wasn't impressed by any of the b-sides on the My Dearest single, hopefully they don't make the next album.... but My Dearest is still a fantastic song imo, OP of the season and much better than the Supercell x KOTOKO collaboration..... I look forward to what Koede can do for the second Guilty Crown OP....

Also if you haven't been keeping up on Bakemonogatari news, Supercell is back for the upcoming season and the ED will be sung by Claris.

2011-10-21, 09:58	Link #23
Sylphic KI NI NARIMASU! Join Date: Apr 2007	Oh my God, My Dearest has got to be one of most amazing things I've heard. My favoritest band ever pumps out yet another godly song. In case you guys haven't heard about this yet, a slightly more lengthy cut than the TV version was played on a radio show over here a few days ago. Some people recorded and put it on Youtube! http://youtu.be/_dQ41IquVr4 __________________ I hope this meets the requirements... Otaku in Japan Daily Blog - [URL="www.ninjapan.org[/URL]

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2011-11-22, 01:51	Link #32
Von Himmel エーレンフェストの聖女 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dollars	Well, it's not that bad.. It still has supercell's feeling in it albeit pretty different because it's nagi whom I'm accustomed to __________________ 「何かが起こっても、わたくしが守ります」

2011-11-25, 06:31	Link #37
winhlp32 (¬‿¬) Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Boyzone	http://flaming-june.com/001/lovesong2/ http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-5476.html Looks like we have an idea of Nagi's whereabouts. She's collaborating with Jun Maeda(everything Key) now. __________________ 　　　　　　　　　　 \| 　　　＼　　( ^p^ )／　　　　￣￣ / 　　　　　　　/ 　　　　　／　＼\| 　　　　/

2011-11-26, 06:12	Link #38
Varaxis Member Join Date: Aug 2010	Interesting. I just posted some of my opinions on this, on another forum, and also looked up all this info after checking out the single of My Dearest. I think ryo mainly looks for a vocalist with not only a good sounding voice, but also a wide vocal range, a large lung capacity, and "endurance". His songs seem to be major lung workouts, with a lot of breath/power being put behind each lyric. I imagine his recording sessions being like swim training for athletes, except your vocal cords are getting strained instead of your body. I agree with the opinions here, regarding where Koede stands compared to nagi and chelly, judging by current works. I rank it that way mainly because I dislike her "resonant lows", which she used in My Dearest, projecting from the back of her throat and bouncing off the roof of her mouth, with her nasal passages blocked. I don't know what to expect with the 3rd album. ryo pairing up with nagi is what got me to follow supercell. I liked the 2nd album, and I like all of chelly's (EGOIST) works. Thinking about it all, I kind of pity Koede, since she has a high standard to meet, kind of like how Halca met sharp criticism, when she filled in for Makii of High and Mighty Color. Koede has talent and we only have one single to judge her talent on. As a first work, ryo probably hasn't yet "sync'd" up with her, finding out how to make better use of that talent and work around the weaknesses. Who knows what else Koede has; she does seem to also have Sakamoto Maaya quality lows, coming out crystal clear from the bottom of the throat. I think I might grow on her resonating sounds and her habit of "flexing her lung capacity" during long notes, compared to May'n and some US pop stars. She just needs to get rid of the plugged up nose sound. I'm hoping that's just a bad habit of hers. Maybe she's trying to make the most use out of her breath and not letting any escape out of her nose. Hopefully they're working on getting rid of that habit. I also hear a bit of sharp excessive air leaks. In the very first part, there's a leak right after "I'm yours;" there's also excessive leaks during some of the other S sounds. There's still plenty of room for improvement for breath management, using it all for producing strong and clear notes and wasting none of it. Going for such efficiency puts a ton of strain on a singer; that's probably a big reason why ryo went with Koede instead of chelly. It's kind of like learning how to breathe smoothly while swimming (notably the exhale part), which is one skill that separates novices from pros. My Dearest has a very easy and catchy rhythm that encourages karaoke. Check out the vocal covers for My Dearest and none come close in quality. They simply don't put the same amount of power (breath) behind each lyric, instead only saving it for the last few long notes. I bet a lot of popular singers (ones that make anime songs at least) would also come short, possibly even the ones I mentioned earlier (Sakamoto Maaya and May'n), in terms of power and lung capacity, compared to Koede. I can only think of elite singers, such as Kokia and maybe the vocalists in Kalafina, ones that are praised for vocals alone rather than the rhythm/catchiness of songs, who could really compare. The main vocalist in School Food Punishment puts a lot of power/breath behind most of her lyrics, but she seems to rely on taking frequent sharp breaths to supply that power, while Koede seems to use more of her lung capacity. Edit: Nevermind. Kokia absolutely spanks Koede in terms of lung capacity [and vocal range]. Kokia's vocals are on a level so much higher than mainstream stuff. I suppose her fault is that she just has a voice that's too mature to appeal a younger generation, while nagi and chelly have mass appeal and Koede kind of is a compromise between the two ranges. Maybe people just like soft gentle feminine voices better, with any vocal skill being a bonus. Last edited by Varaxis; 2011-11-26 at 07:31.

2011-10-15, 01:38	Link #21
Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007	Nagi and Supercell should at least reunite for the Bakemonogatari sequels/prequels

2011-10-15, 19:15	Link #22
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	God, that would be greatness.

2011-10-21, 15:50	Link #24
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	Eh, I prefer the ED or the insert song.

2011-11-21, 10:13	Link #27
Azuma Denton ~AD~ Join Date: Oct 2006	*hearing single My Dearest... Ok, please recruit Nagi again, ryo...

2011-11-21, 14:31	Link #28
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	I'm still waiting on Euterpe.

2011-11-21, 18:31	Link #29
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	I tried really hard to like Koeda's voice, but it's not cutting it for me. :/ The instrumental is good, though.

2011-11-21, 19:23	Link #30
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	I like Chelly's voice though. Where's my Euterpe single?

2011-11-21, 19:49	Link #31
blakstealth Les Pays Bass Join Date: Jun 2011	Yeah, she's okay. I wanna her sing My Dearest instead. :P

2011-11-22, 02:25	Link #33
Kunagisa Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	To be fair, Nagi isn't Supercell's first vocalist either. Though Bakemonogatari sent the Supercell x Nagi as the "official" setup into overdrive. I feel like koeda had just way too much to live up to, but honestly chelly's voice resonates better with me than koeda so ... Nagi > chelly > koeda.

2011-11-22, 07:43	Link #34
Azuma Denton ~AD~ Join Date: Oct 2006	Yesh, ryo still delivers the great music... But too bad, IMO, i believe Koeda's type of voice is not good enough to sing ryo's music... Let's see how Chelly handle ryo's music...

2011-11-22, 20:21	Link #35
Khu そんなやさしくしないで。。。 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NSW, Australia Age: 29	Yay, My Dearest is released as a single~

2011-11-22, 22:21	Link #36
abc0716 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Age: 33	Just heard the B-side of Guilty Crown OP singles on the web radio station I usually listen. However, the voice of the new vocalist made me cringe a lot..... In my opinion, Nagi is the better vocalist, compare with the recent one.

2011-11-28, 22:47	Link #39
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	The full version of Euterpe is out, and I'm definitely liking it more than My Dearest.

2011-12-02, 00:38	Link #40
Westlo Lets be reality Join Date: May 2007	Don't really get the hate for My Dearest, imo it's easily the best faster paced song Supercell has done since the Bakemonogatari ED. I also really think Koede's vocals compliment the arrangement. I do think that Euterpe is the better song and that both Nagi and Chelly are better suited to Supercell than Koede though. I really wasn't impressed by any of the b-sides on the My Dearest single, hopefully they don't make the next album.... but My Dearest is still a fantastic song imo, OP of the season and much better than the Supercell x KOTOKO collaboration..... I look forward to what Koede can do for the second Guilty Crown OP.... Also if you haven't been keeping up on Bakemonogatari news, Supercell is back for the upcoming season and the ED will be sung by Claris.