Shin High School DxD Volume 4 Discussion

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by Giuseppe1234

True, the demons are so strong that can destroy the Heaven and Grigori without big problem...and in the future, will be also worse with the new super demons and maous with issei's childrens. And we have to see if Balberith and Verrine will follow issei.

But then every single mythology would turn against them and Shiva would probably destroy the Underworld.

But Tobio is showing Issei how a real MC goes about defeating angels. Or Ishibumi was thinking it would be easier for Vali and his team to defeat a bunch of humans rather than a bunch of angels who have both the benefits of the evil pieces and the Brave Saints, has one of the top Rating Game players and tacticians as their advisor, and have the power of light which Vali and half of his team is inherently weak against.

But Cao Cao should be revealing the new ability of his last orb in his match against Surtr. I wonder if it'll be enough to defeat him or not.

With Ruval vs Typhon, we may get a glimpse at how strong Ruval is, the full capabilities of Unknown Dictator, and the godly abilities of Bennu.

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

But then every single mythology would turn against them and Shiva would probably destroy the Underworld.

But Tobio is showing Issei how a real MC goes about defeating angels. Or Ishibumi was thinking it would be easier for Vali and his team to defeat a bunch of humans rather than a bunch of angels who have both the benefits of the evil pieces and the Brave Saints, has one of the top Rating Game players and tacticians as their advisor, and have the power of light which Vali and half of his team is inherently weak against.

But Cao Cao should be revealing the new ability of his last orb in his match against Surtr. I wonder if it'll be enough to defeat him or not.

With Ruval vs Typhon, we may get a glimpse at how strong Ruval is, the full capabilities of Unknown Dictator, and the godly abilities of Bennu.

In the future with Issei who become a Dragon God together to Vali, shiva will not be more a big danger 😂

The Light power is irrelevant with when it has not done the difference against issei’s team, when they were weaker than those of Vali.
Tobio is stronger than Dulio and the same thing for his team.
You can have the best strategist but against Vali DxD L (EJOD is enough for them), fenrir and Arthur there isn’t possibility to win, when no one can facing them. Without forget Bikou (dragon king class).

Probably Cao Cao will win for the plot, especially when he can not even defeat Sairaorg Btb, with the big advantage of the holy with the true Longinus, considering that Sairaorg was not at the 100%, when he has facing Cao Cao for the fight with Ercules. And the same Regulus is weak to the holy.

About Surtr, it has been mentioned to be powerful (god class) with his flames able to burn everything, his flame was also one of the reason for which the Gods teams were retreating

[XFire]

I'm going to laugh if Tobio somehow beats Vali (one of his old notebooks maybe) just so Ishi can cuck us out of the rival battle again.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by Giuseppe1234

In the future with Issei who become a Dragon God together to Vali, shiva will not be more a big danger 😂

The Light power is irrelevant with when it has not done the difference against issei’s team, when they were weaker than those of Vali.
Tobio is stronger than Dulio and the same thing for his team.
You can have the best strategist but against Vali DxD L (EJOD is enough for them), fenrir and Arthur there isn’t possibility to win, when no one can facing them. Without forget Bikou (dragon king class).

Probably Cao Cao will win for the plot, especially when he can not even defeat Sairaorg Btb, with the big advantage of the holy with the true Longinus, considering that Sairaorg was not at the 100%, when he has facing Cao Cao for the fight with Ercules. And the same Regulus is weak to the holy.

About Surtr, it has been mentioned to be powerful (god class) with his flames able to burn everything, his flame was also one of the reason for which the Gods teams were retreating

Has it been proven that Tobio is stronger than Dulio? I'm just curious about that as I haven't really read anything in the series that could confirm or deny that. And can you prove that Tobio's team is stronger than Dulio's? Considering we don't know who's on Tobio's team besides Lavinia, Samejima, and Natsume(don't want to make any assumptions about Shigune and Koga) and we don't really know how strong they are exactly.

But it is a fact that devils and youkai are weak to the power of light in this series. That's the point I was making not whether or not it would be relevant.

Either Cao Cao defeats Surtr with his new ability or loses despite using it. Maybe the new ability of his orb will be basically a powerful finishing move of sorts. Seeing as Cao Cao lacks firepower.

[n0m@n]

Man, just reading the quote at the beginning of the volume and seeing how we have multiple mini chapters after the afterword makes it feel like this is the last volume rather than the conclusion of an story arc lol. Well, we all know it isn't. Looks like Life.0 will be very long for this volume since it finishes off Team Vali vs Team JttW in 1 chapter judging from the chapter names.

....Lucky I took a day off so I could read this mammoth volume.

[OmegaWeaponZ]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

Either Cao Cao defeats Surtr with his new ability or loses despite using it. Maybe the new ability of his orb will be basically a powerful finishing move of sorts. Seeing as Cao Cao lacks firepower.

Watch as it somehow, some way, becomes yet another armored form.

I mean, every "Hero" must have a cool armor, right?

[godz]

such an armor would be with cao cao, agile, resistant and above all does not disturb the movement of the spear.... (the armor is of lancer de fate requiem which his true identity is longinus)

[TheWu8128]

Yo if these spoilers for Shin 4 are real this volume is crazy Bennia joins Issei's peerage called that years ago

[Malbolge]

Holy shit. I would have given up on that after this volume!

Where are you seeing these?

Edit: looks like images are up on the wikia. Hades and Arthur finally get proper illustrations.

[Marvix]

I will post spoilers in a bit

[TheWu8128]

The discord its crazy right Ishi went nuts this volume your mind will be blown

[Lucidrago]

Was it just Issei that got promoted to Ultimate-class or did Rias and Sairaorg get promoted along with him?

[Marvix]

Spoiler for Prepare to be SHOCKED!!!!:

Issei and Vali were promoted to Super Devils
Rookies 4 all promoted to ultimate class
Irina now ultimate class angel
Regulus, Seekvaira's queen, Xenovia, Gasper, Koneko, Akeno, Kiba, Asia and Rose now high class
ExE = Evis (machine life forms) Etoulde (high class spirit god)
DxD world called Draconis Deusu
Bennia promoted to mid class and now Issei's Knight, Loup is now Rias' rook and also mid
Nimura promoted to mid class and now in Xenovia's peerage. Most shocking of all is Balberith and Verrine joine her peerage too along wity Kuroka
Something about FxF which means Fadiru x Ferudora
Issei's free Rook is mutation piece

[n0m@n]

Damn, slept in. Cheated by looking at last pages of volume.
For promotion...

Special-class Devil promotion
Hyoudou Issei
Vali Lucifer

Also confirmed Super Devils:
Hyoudou Iseei
Vali Lucifer

Ultimate-class Devil promotion
Sairaorg Bael
Seegvaira Agares
Rias Gremory
Sona Sitri

High-class Devil Promotion:
Regulus, Seekvaira's Queen, Akeno, Kiba, Koneko, Gasper, Tsubaki, Saji, Rossweisse, Asia, Xenovia, Kuroka

Mid-class Devil Promotion
Yura, Meguri, Hanakai, Kusaka, Loup Garou, Bennia, Nimura

Ultimate-class Angel
Shidou Irina


Genealogy of Gremory
Rias's peerage's changes:
Rook - Loup Garou


Issei's peerage changes:
Knight - Beenia

Xenovia's peerage:
Queen (mutation) - Verinne (planned)
Rook x2 (mutation) -Balberith
Bishop x2 - Kuroka
Pawn x1 - Nimura Ruriko


1. Issei's Rook is mutated piece
2. Xenovia makes special pact with Ajuka to have her evil piece a mutated pieces and has plans for Verene and Balberith to become her servants. For that reason her perage cannot participate in future Rating Games.
3.

[Marvix]

Nig.. I just said ill post spoilers lol

[Hakai]

My head is spinning.

This is all too much to take in.

But I'm glad my Boy Bal(and Verrine) are finally on the good side, as they should be. I'm glad it happened sooner than later.

[Raptor178]

Originally Posted by Marvix

Nig.. I just said ill post spoilers lol

I trust C-Z more than you.
The truth hurts...

[Marvix]

Xenovia's new nickname is Double Holy Swords of Destruction.
Honestly Xenovia upstaged Le Fay in her own volume.... Sad

[AzazelDxD]

Originally Posted by Marvix

Xenovia's new nickname is Double Holy Swords of Destruction.
Honestly Xenovia upstaged Le Fay in her own volume.... Sad

But something interesting happened with LE FAY.. right?

[Marvix]

Originally Posted by Raptor178

I trust C-Z more than you.
The truth hurts...

Not like there are others who understand Japanese i can get spoilers from to post for everyone or anything