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Old 2016-07-31, 21:58   Link #261
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Free draw per day and leg fest at same time is pretty neat. From begening of free draws I got Zahlhamelina (she is awesome support), Rosamia (pretty niche)

And today it was Magisa, which is funny as I just few hours ago was saying myself I need some non water tank. I guess I should level her quickly so I can pit her agains melonsmen. Katalina (summer) really can't heal enough to survive earth opponents.
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Old 2016-07-31, 23:18   Link #262
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Per sama is going to become available after the Legend fes right?
HRT isn't even trying to hide his greedy intention...
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Old 2016-08-01, 12:36   Link #263
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Free draw per day and leg fest at same time is pretty neat. From begening of free draws I got Zahlhamelina (she is awesome support), Rosamia (pretty niche)
Actually no. At some point, Rosamia is pretty much the best light attacker just because of her stats, type and inherent extra damage ability.
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And today it was Magisa, which is funny as I just few hours ago was saying myself I need some non water tank. I guess I should level her quickly so I can pit her agains melonsmen. Katalina (summer) really can't heal enough to survive earth opponents.
Magisa isn't a tank whatsoever. In fact, her transformation doesn't make her that bulky, and she has abolutely 0 aggro or cover ability.
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Old 2016-08-01, 17:23   Link #264
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Depends what kind of summons. Also, Haruta stated they will rebalance the regen series summon (Satyr etc) so I'd rather keep them just in case if I were you.
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Old 2016-08-01, 17:27   Link #265
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9000 crystals. 2 useless SSR summons and 1 SR character haha...fml I have no luck.

Is there any point in keeping gacha SSR summons if I am not using them? I need rainbow prism and at least it would help to not feel like I just threw away my crystals :/

What did you get?
If what you have are trashes like Siren or Flam=Glass, yeah go ahead and break them into elements.
But keep the regen summons. There are times they are useful.
Also keep stones like Baal and Garuda that are good subs.
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Old 2016-08-01, 18:45   Link #266
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Car On the whale?
KEEEEEP! Car On is the super carbunkle type stone, which are super good subs.
It boosts the damage of the corresponding element and reduce the damaged received from the opposite from the same time.
While normal carbunkle boost and reduce damage of the same element.

Satan can be kept for raw states.
As for Agni, only if you have long term plan in grinding the weapons that are boosted by Agni.
Which certainly is an option, because fire magna weapons aren't that good.
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Old 2016-08-01, 20:28   Link #267
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The thing is that "you never know". With a stroke of luck, it is possible to get several stuff from a given element and suddenly have a complete element in term of characters/weapons.

There is a reason why Agni and the other summons of that category are not part of the surprise ticket choices: with the proper setup, they are on par with Lucifer and Bahamut for their repsective element if not better.

And again, breaking gacha summons aren't exactly a good idea unless they are really that crappy even with 4* (Flam Glass etc) or if you have already maxed it (and some summons like Athena and Olivia are worth being kept in dupes).
The mats obtained can be easily farmed with event/magna summons and so forth.
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Old 2016-08-01, 20:37   Link #268
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^Yeah, that's true.
I never thought I'd play earth, now I have a full team of earth characters, just need a medusa/titan summon to get it going.
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On a side note, I got summer Naru from free pull. It's one of my favourite characters.
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Old 2016-08-02, 08:11   Link #269
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And someone should tell Cygames that a pull with 1 characterless SR and 9 Rs for 3000 crystals is massive BS. Not funny at all.
Don't worry, this happens a lot of the time.

You try getting no dupes to get the moons over 20 rolls, and only 2 summon SR to show off.

... ;_;

Some people reportedly also can roll 100 times via LegFes and despaired with no SSR lol.

In the end, just be grateful you get any SSR (unless it's Flam=Glas that you just Element for the delicious 10 rainbow crys or Carmelina (a mediocre character who evolved to trash tier in multi-raid post 'buff')) since they will do something for quite the longest time.
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Old 2016-08-02, 09:42   Link #270
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Actually no. At some point, Rosamia is pretty much the best light attacker just because of her stats, type and inherent extra damage ability.
Magisa isn't a tank whatsoever. In fact, her transformation doesn't make her that bulky, and she has abolutely 0 aggro or cover ability.
Oh her stats are that good. Nice to hear that. I guess that extra damage can make up for lack of any other offensive skills. Still I do find niche character that combine suicidal and survival skills at same time...

As for Nagisa, by tank I don't mean defensive taunter, but simply anyone who lessen damage of other units and her "Wall" and "eruption"s attack down seems pretty decent for that purpose. And by transformation you mean that "Demon Morax" thing?
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Old 2016-08-02, 09:51   Link #271
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Offensive skills are useful at first but becomes more and more obsolete at a certain point of the game because of damage cap. When your team isn't fully equipped, special attacks and abilities are indeed desirable for burst damage, but when you are done with your magna set, auto attacks become your bread and butter in term of damage.
That's why characters like Ferry and Rosamia are very strong because they bypass the normal attack damage cap.

And yeah, I was talking about Magisa's fourth ability with Morax.
That being said, Magisa is a bit of an odd ball because she isn't exactly powerful as an attacker but she lacks of proper buffs for a fire team aside of the veil effect.
She is often benched in contrast to characters like Clarisse and Zalhelmina as they provide more tools to a fire team. Of course, you can't be picky if you don't have more than 4-5 fire SSR characters, but don't rely too much on her.
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Old 2016-08-02, 09:58   Link #272
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At this point things like Magna set is every distant utopia for me, but yeah even at this point it's not hard to see that Zahlhelmina is in completely different lague. Regardless right now I need someone take Katalina (summer) against earth foes andI don't have much choice here.
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Old 2016-08-02, 11:11   Link #273
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Oh her stats are that good. Nice to hear that. I guess that extra damage can make up for lack of any other offensive skills. Still I do find niche character that combine suicidal and survival skills at same time...
You'll come to love Rosamia's suicidalness eventually.
That's one easy trick to get her kill on purpose during a HL raid to rotate 2 into the front.
And any player who has 2 would never not bring her when they are doing a HL raid.
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Old 2016-08-02, 16:34   Link #274
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You can use Heal All as a 4th skill? How?
You sure it is not Medica from Alchemist? That is a healing ability too.
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Old 2016-08-02, 17:14   Link #275
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Please no. Even a crappy R is better than that.
You already pulled Flam=Glass, the trashiest among the trash. Nothing can hurt you anymore.
...Unless you draw more of it.
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Old 2016-08-03, 05:13   Link #276
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1000 card poker so gooooood!

I hope they bring the casino back asap
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Old 2016-08-03, 12:03   Link #277
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So if i want to unlock class 4 through upgrading oliver, which need 700+ pistols stone, i can only pray for gacha roll to give me gun or i just sup tix a charac that comes with gun so that i can reduce it for a significant amount? Is there any more reliable method since my luck with gacha really is shit, wont know how long it will take to even get a ssr gun. Reducing non-gacha ssr gun seems like it will take forever to get 700+ stones...
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Old 2016-08-03, 13:04   Link #278
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So if i want to unlock class 4 through upgrading oliver, which need 700+ pistols stone, i can only pray for gacha roll to give me gun or i just sup tix a charac that comes with gun so that i can reduce it for a significant amount? Is there any more reliable method since my luck with gacha really is shit, wont know how long it will take to even get a ssr gun. Reducing non-gacha ssr gun seems like it will take forever to get 700+ stones...
That's the only viable process, as well as Element-ing SR gacha guns. Farm Vouf as much as possible and hope she drops twirling chest to get her beautiful gun. Element ColoGun SSR as well if you're desperate.

Just to ask, why would you even want to upgrade Olivier for unlocking class... Olivier is good enough at 1st stage, the latter stages are only for increasing stats for Wind and Light parties (and even then, you won't be upgrading that to the last stage until very late because 4*ing Magna weapons >>>>>> Job class weapons). You'd be more happy with using Nirvana instead to unlock T4 jobs mainly because:

- Statistically speaking, you will still get more SSR staff (miniscule as it may be) and SR staffs (much more gap) from the gacha. LeviMagna staff and YggyMagna staffs are also viable element choice.
- Nirvana has more uses in HLs (or more like, BahaHL) due to that auto-revive on MC whenever you use heal.

Unless you don't plan to even try to branch to Wind or Light element, Oliver isn't exactly the best job weapon to use for T4 unlock. If you insist on doing guns, I'd even say Nebu will be the best bet over Olivier.
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Old 2016-08-03, 13:35   Link #279
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Hold on Ntsuki sensei... err what's the name Gunslinger's gun again? That thing is actually best choice for both wind and light party thanks to how much damage that thing can pump out and the auto re-load on the Ougi.

BTW, you can also trade the required weaponry elements from shop by using the pendants from the HL raid.
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Old 2016-08-03, 13:45   Link #280
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Hold on Ntsuki sensei... err what's the name Gunslinger's gun again? That thing is actually best choice for both wind and light party thanks to how much damage that thing can pump out and the auto re-load on the Ougi.
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Unless you don't plan to even try to branch to Wind or Light element, Oliver isn't exactly the best job weapon to use for T4 unlock. If you insist on doing guns, I'd even say Nebu will be the best bet over Olivier.
shmacchi please, you know I'm secretly aiming for making a maxed Light Nebu in the far distant utopia!

I never agree on Remodeling Oliver to last stage to be honest, purely because Oliver is for farming purpose, and it will have almost max efficiency at Stage 1 remodel already. Better spend those sparse elements for the coveted Nebu!

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BTW, you can also trade the required weaponry elements from shop by using the pendants from the HL raid.
Oh yea, that as well. The rate is pretty bad though, 30 gold pendants for 1 element... You will need 40 of the class proof (the symbols thing) for full stage Remodeling, and 20 more to access Tier 4 of some class. Pretty much not that viable in the grand scheme of thing!
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