Shin High School DxD Volume 4 Discussion

[Hakai]

Originally Posted by XFire

I'm starting to think Tannin was talking out his ass and he's actually the weakest of the Dragon Kings

Bova inherited his jobber genes from dad

[godz]

Originally Posted by Sekiryuu12

80% , And even so, while it was shown, Fenrir(and Gog) were unable to touch Yu-long. the dude was running while dodging everything.
So he was retired off screen.

I am beginning to believe that Fenrir may have been in his time the weakest top 10 ... since it took yu-long and vittra to stop an uncontrolled yasaka.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by XFire

I'm starting to think Tannin was talking out his ass and he's actually the weakest of the Dragon Kings

As a once famous person once said, "POWER LEVELS ARE BS!"

I just think Ishibumi wants these fights to be as close as possible regardless of the strength between two opponents.

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by Sekiryuu12

Fenrir can fly too @_@.

How? It has not wings or know the magic.
It has never showed fly

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Giuseppe1234

How? It has not wings or know the magic.
It has never showed fly

The very first appearance of Fenrir was in mid air attacking a flying carriage. It can walk on air.

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by XFire

The very first appearance of Fenrir was in mid air attacking a flying carriage. It can walk on air.

For how much we know, it could be merit of Loki.
During all the other apparizations, especially vs Balor rias, nothing of that has been showed again.

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by godz

I am beginning to believe that Fenrir may have been in his time the weakest top 10 ... since it took yu-long and vittra to stop an uncontrolled yasaka.

Yasaka is a dragon king class like Vritra, but in the fight, the target of Saji was that to adsorbe Yasaka's power to weaken her. But was impossibile because being in kyoto, she had unlimited energy and George has used his magic against vritra's abilities.

It was 2vs1 initially, it has been normal for saji lose.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Giuseppe1234

For how much we know, it could be merit of Loki.
During all the other apparizations, especially vs Balor rias, nothing of that has been showed again.

There's no mention of that being the case, and also Fenrir dodges Rias' attacks in mid air. Her "vaporize everything in 100 meters" attacks. Meaning he had to actually be accelerating and changing direction in mid air.

Also the idea that a top ten character can't fly is just silly.

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by XFire

There's no mention of that being the case, and also Fenrir dodges Rias' attacks in mid air. Her "vaporize everything in 100 meters" attacks. Meaning he had to actually be accelerating and changing direction in mid air.


Also the idea that a top ten character can't fly is just silly.

Fenrir moved between the high-rise buildings with quick reflexes, using the strength of its legs to push against the walls to jump off. It then leapt off the next wall that it landed on to evade the attacks of those two

It has been always mentioned fenrir to jump among the building or leapt across to charge, using its crazy physical strenght. Dodge the attacks while you are in mid air doesn't mean that it can fly.

If he can fly, there would not be reason to jump among the buildings to charge

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Giuseppe1234

Fenrir moved between the high-rise buildings with quick reflexes, using the strength of its legs to push against the walls to jump off. It then leapt off the next wall that it landed on to evade the attacks of those two

It has been always mentioned fenrir to jump among the building or leapt across to charge, using its crazy physical strength. Dodge the attacks while you are in mid air doesn't mean that it can fly.

If he can fly, there would not be reason to jump among the buildings to charge

Bruh

Fenrir had already leapt away before the building was eliminated, but it was stopped in the very instant that it leapt out by her time-stopping ability. The power of destruction that had been released was also stopped, however it changed its course and then quickly homed in on Fenrir while it was stopped. Fenrir once again let loose its aura to break free from its frozen state, and it twisted its body to avoid being struck by Rias’ demonic energy. The attack which passed through empty air caused everything in its vicinity to be annihilated. The area with a radius of a few hundred metres had been completely eradicated

Fenrir dodges an attack with a radius of several hundred meters in mid air.

And again, literally his first appearance is in mid air, and there's no indication it's under Loki's power that he does it.

Unless you have some kind of evidence suggesting that he can't do something he's already been shown to do, you've got nothing to stand on.

[Marvix]

Meanwhile, Im here thinking about "The Panty Brigade" -- if Fafnir (General), Lilith and Ophis (Vice Generals) made their own brigade force of panty loving soldiers
Kuroka would be the General of the "Anti-Underwear Faction" as their rivals and try to recruit Ophis by giving a speech on how she was 'free without panties'.

Why Ophis and Lilith? Because panties have become weirdly associated with them and them doing anything weird is funny and welcoming to see lol

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by XFire

Bruh



Fenrir dodges an attack with a radius of several hundred meters in mid air.

And again, literally his first appearance is in mid air, and there's no indication it's under Loki's power that he does it.

Unless you have some kind of evidence suggesting that he can't do something he's already been shown to do, you've got nothing to stand on.

And you have not evidences to say that it can fly because it has not been said.

[CCPDarkraiRules]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwbqr2UjeSg

Samurai Jack is Fenrir and Aku is Yu-Long.

[godz]

"the levels of power do not matter in dxd", it seems that this phrase is increasingly true.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Giuseppe1234

And you have not evidences to say that it can fly because it has not been said.

I literally gave you evidence though. His entire first appearance takes place in the middle of the sky, kid.

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by XFire

I literally gave you evidence though. His entire first appearance takes place in the middle of the sky, kid.

It is not sure that loki did not use the magic, like i gived you the evidence during the fight with Rias where fenrir jumped trough the buildings to charge or Dodge the attacks, If it can fly, why should it jumps trough the buildings?.

You have not to be able to fly, to Dodge the attacks in mid air
And if a characters can fly, it is mentioned clearly

[Marvix]

Part 4 of Life 2 in Volume 7: nothing was mentioned about Loki allowing Fenrir flight. Loki summoned him and that was that. This plus the fact he doged an attack in mid air in Volume 24 proves he CAN fly. He used said buildings for dodging simply because he could.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Giuseppe1234

It is not sure that loki did not use the magic, like i gived you the evidence during the fight with Rias where fenrir jumped trough the buildings to charge or Dodge the attacks, If it can fly, why should it jumps trough the buildings?.

You have not to be able to fly, to Dodge the attacks in mid air
And if a characters can fly, it is mentioned clearly

That's not how this works. Fenrir's literal introduction is in the middle of the sky, and no mention is made of it being someone else doing it for him. Like, him not being able to fly would be a giant weak spot to exploit considering he doesn't have any kind of ranged attacks. You could just poke him to death with impunity.

As for why he was jumping off buildings, he's using them as platforms to boost his momentum. Compare the starting speed of a swimmer in the middle of a pool to one that kicks off the pool wall.

The only character whose flight is mentioned is Issei, specifically because he can't do it himself and needs Ddraig to help him.


So one more time, Fenrir's literal introduction is him being in the middle of the sky walking on air. No mention is made of him lacking flight when looking for a weakness. And if you want to suggest Loki is the one doing it, you have to provide evidence for it, because no mention of it is made or suggested in the volume. Burden of proof is squarely on your shoulders here.

[Marvix]

Characters who can fly use momentum of surfaces to reach high all the time.

[XFire]

Like if Fenrir couldn't fly then Rias could have just floated up into the sky an ate popcorn while Crom and Vali beat each other up, and then supposing Vali won she could have flown over and dropped a nuke on his exhausted ass.