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Insaint · 2016-07-08, 21:57

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Originally Posted by Redoaxe

Drop rates are lower than other magnas so you can only rely on pendant shop to build a light/dark pool.

Nah, drop rates are all just luck, I have many crew mates getting much faster drops in celes than in colo/tiamat. Its the lack of attack up SR that makes it hard for light/dark to start with.

Shadow5YA · 2016-07-08, 23:38

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Originally Posted by Insaint

Nah, drop rates are all just luck, I have many crew mates getting much faster drops in celes than in colo/tiamat. Its the lack of attack up SR that makes it hard for light/dark to start with.

Even if it is ultimately luck, it's a fact that the SSR weapon rate for Chev/Celeste are much lower than the other magnas, even if you do MVP them.

They're also significantly harder to MVP than the likes of Tiamat, meaning less red boxes and even less chances to get said SSR magna weapons.

Insaint · 2016-07-09, 00:44

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

Even if it is ultimately luck, it's a fact that the SSR weapon rate for Chev/Celeste are much lower than the other magnas, even if you do MVP them.

They're also significantly harder to MVP than the likes of Tiamat, meaning less red boxes and even less chances to get said SSR magna weapons.

Fact? Then, do you have any as supported prove in % as given by cygame?
I have seen as much cases of getting fast ssr in any of the elements, even I myself get first colo cane after 200+ colo leech raid and 0 guns in over 50 tiamat raids, but get 1 harp and 1 gun in less than 20 of lumi raids. You are right in lumi/celes being harder to mvp, but then we are talking about starting element here, hence its all just about leeching raids only.

shmaster · 2016-07-09, 02:21

Japanese players has already been testing drop rate since two years ago.
There are cumulative testing data of two years worth floating around on twitter.
And the conclusion is that Chevalier Magna and Celeste Magna at best has only half of the SSR drop rate compare to other Magna.

And when it comes to Chevalier Sword Magna, the only thing that has lower drop rate than that is probably Hihiirogane.

Von Himmel · 2016-07-09, 10:53

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Originally Posted by Vigo

Yeah read about that when I started the game. I was just curious if a specific reason was given by Cygames or if there is some general consensus by the fanbase.

Normally if something is harder to get it's beacause it's better/stronger. But here it feels kinda arbitrary.

Uh, you mean you don't see how light/dark is better than most other 4 elements?

Shadow5YA · 2016-07-09, 11:50

except wind

Tenzen12 · 2016-07-09, 14:15

How do I +1 characters/weapon/summons, I figured leveling skills, uncapping but this isn't in any guide I looked (not even in "ultimate guide" as far as I searched)?

Oh and this event is rather weaker than Robomi one, sure Kat in swimsuit was great but otherwise story is same as always and event Sig doesn't even look better than non-event one (which also happen have far better art)...

Shadow5YA · 2016-07-09, 16:18

+numbers come from upgrading using weapons that have other +numbers.

You'll get most of them from spamming Rupee gacha, though it will be expensive if you haven't been farming coop regularly...

Insaint · 2016-07-09, 21:27

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Originally Posted by Tenzen12

How do I +1 characters/weapon/summons, I figured leveling skills, uncapping but this isn't in any guide I looked (not even in "ultimate guide" as far as I searched)?

Oh and this event is rather weaker than Robomi one, sure Kat in swimsuit was great but otherwise story is same as always and event Sig doesn't even look better than non-event one (which also happen have far better art)...

Boring events are good so people can focus farming other things like gw charac etc.

AnimeFangirl · 2016-07-17, 15:02

This event is slightly more interesting than the last one. Slightly. But the rewards are better. The Ebisu summon and the Swordfish sword are both good additions to an early/mid-game water team. Waaaant.

Tenzen12 · 2016-07-19, 16:32

Originally I intended keep all crystals for legfest, but I couldn't just let opportunity get swimsuit Katalina so I did spent my 3k crystals for 10 roll and not just I got Kat's rapier twice, but I also got SRR Zahlhamelina who seems to have pretty decent skills so I am willing forgive her that terrible name

It's shame that gacha Katalina seems to be completely same as story one aside of having fourth limit break (at least she can be raised to higher lv, yay?).

I feel quite lucky about this

**Klashikari** · 2016-07-19, 16:35

Story Katalina actually has a fourth level cap but you have to reach a certain point of the story to unlock it.

Also no, summer Katalina is much better than basic Katalina as her heal is capped at 1200 and her ougi modifier is normalized like any other gacha SR char.

Tenzen12 · 2016-07-19, 16:49

Wow that's great! Does heal grow with levels or maybe with +1 bonuses? Anyway considering I can't really go without her heals and tanking even in non water teams this is truly good news for me.

Redoaxe · 2016-07-19, 19:36

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Originally Posted by Tenzen12

Originally I intended keep all crystals for legfest, but I couldn't just let opportunity get swimsuit Katalina so I did spent my 3k crystals for 10 roll and not just I got Kat's rapier twice, but I also got SRR Zahlhamelina who seems to have pretty decent skills so I am willing forgive her that terrible name

It's shame that gacha Katalina seems to be completely same as story one aside of having fourth limit break (at least she can be raised to higher lv, yay?).

I feel quite lucky about this

Yeah, I was waiting for legfest too, but with everyone saying this was the time time to get Summer Vira... I couldn't resist and did 60 pulls. 50 pulls = no SSR, last one, Summer Vira.
Needless to say, I'm happy despite using a lot of crystals. Time to work on my dirt team.

AnimeFangirl · 2016-07-19, 20:28

What's so special about Summer Vira vs. Regular Vira? I thought SSR Vira was supposed to be one of the best units in the game.

Redoaxe · 2016-07-19, 20:52

They're different and both are great. Summer Vira has charm, dispels one debuff from enemy, has a heal and her last skill gives 200% atk up in the 4th turn.

shmaster · 2016-07-20, 00:56

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Originally Posted by Redoaxe

They're different and both are great. Summer Vira has charm, dispels one debuff from enemy, has a heal and her last skill gives 200% atk up in the 4th turn.

I should also add that Summer Vira's charm has a the same potency as Charm Voice 2 with a instrument. That alone with healing makes her pretty ridiculous.

Tenzen12 · 2016-07-20, 03:34

Yeah Summer Vira is great, though her third skill make her hit like wet noodle for three turns before buff kick in....

Se7enSword · 2016-07-20, 05:48

Ugh...not a fan of the new update.

Can't utilize the bingo bot anymore. D:

EDIT: They screwed over ougi refreshing too. Despite what HRT tweeted, it is certainly affected.

Von Himmel · 2016-07-20, 08:00

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Originally Posted by Se7enSword

Ugh...not a fan of the new update.

Can't utilize the bingo bot anymore. D:

EDIT: They screwed over ougi refreshing too. Despite what HRT tweeted, it is certainly affected.

I think they're trying to cull people with 60 fps script so people that loads too fast might get hit

Also considering he said that they only ban people using tools, many of my friends who played using viramate tool is still safe so I'm not going to take what he said at face values

2016-07-09, 14:15	Link #227
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	How do I +1 characters/weapon/summons, I figured leveling skills, uncapping but this isn't in any guide I looked (not even in "ultimate guide" as far as I searched)? Oh and this event is rather weaker than Robomi one, sure Kat in swimsuit was great but otherwise story is same as always and event Sig doesn't even look better than non-event one (which also happen have far better art)... __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

2016-07-17, 15:02	Link #230
AnimeFangirl Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The dog gossips too much.	This event is slightly more interesting than the last one. Slightly. But the rewards are better. The Ebisu summon and the Swordfish sword are both good additions to an early/mid-game water team. Waaaant. __________________

2016-07-19, 16:32	Link #231
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Originally I intended keep all crystals for legfest, but I couldn't just let opportunity get swimsuit Katalina so I did spent my 3k crystals for 10 roll and not just I got Kat's rapier twice, but I also got SRR Zahlhamelina who seems to have pretty decent skills so I am willing forgive her that terrible name It's shame that gacha Katalina seems to be completely same as story one aside of having fourth limit break (at least she can be raised to higher lv, yay?). I feel quite lucky about this __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

2016-07-19, 16:35	Link #232
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	Story Katalina actually has a fourth level cap but you have to reach a certain point of the story to unlock it. Also no, summer Katalina is much better than basic Katalina as her heal is capped at 1200 and her ougi modifier is normalized like any other gacha SR char. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2016-07-19, 16:49	Link #233
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Wow that's great! Does heal grow with levels or maybe with +1 bonuses? Anyway considering I can't really go without her heals and tanking even in non water teams this is truly good news for me. __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

2016-07-09, 02:21	Link #224
shmaster オンドリャァァァ!!! Join Date: May 2009	Japanese players has already been testing drop rate since two years ago. There are cumulative testing data of two years worth floating around on twitter. And the conclusion is that Chevalier Magna and Celeste Magna at best has only half of the SSR drop rate compare to other Magna. And when it comes to Chevalier Sword Magna, the only thing that has lower drop rate than that is probably Hihiirogane.

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Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	except wind

2016-07-09, 16:18	Link #228
Shadow5YA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	+numbers come from upgrading using weapons that have other +numbers. You'll get most of them from spamming Rupee gacha, though it will be expensive if you haven't been farming coop regularly...

2016-07-19, 20:28	Link #235
AnimeFangirl Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The dog gossips too much.	What's so special about Summer Vira vs. Regular Vira? I thought SSR Vira was supposed to be one of the best units in the game. __________________

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Redoaxe ツンデレ。。。？ Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Brazil Age: 30	They're different and both are great. Summer Vira has charm, dispels one debuff from enemy, has a heal and her last skill gives 200% atk up in the 4th turn. __________________

2016-07-20, 03:34	Link #238
Tenzen12 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Yeah Summer Vira is great, though her third skill make her hit like wet noodle for three turns before buff kick in.... __________________ "I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it" (Charles R. Swindoll)

2016-07-20, 05:48	Link #239
Se7enSword Swordsman Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2008	Ugh...not a fan of the new update. Can't utilize the bingo bot anymore. D: EDIT: They screwed over ougi refreshing too. Despite what HRT tweeted, it is certainly affected. __________________ Last edited by Se7enSword; 2016-07-20 at 07:22.