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wuhugm · 2016-09-28, 10:53

^^Farnese suffered more! Soiled by her own father!

Paimon what!? She suffered because her own choices!

Enslaved by Dantalian is already the best treatment for her!

Xellos-_^ · 2016-09-28, 10:54

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Whats the difference between demon lord and humans?

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Dantalian .... sent there to prevent the World Destruction.

^ When was this stated?

either of you read chapter 1?

cabman11 · 2016-09-28, 13:08

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Originally Posted by kaikalaila

Dantalian .... sent there to prevent the World Destruction.

^ When was this stated?

So many Paimon hate, she did nuthin rong!
Won't you get suspicious when someone bought tons of the very thing that can help against a sudden plague? That someone would either be an accomplice or the perpetrator of the plague. She was misled by Ivar who ends up turning against her to preserve the safety of the original body.

Hopefully, in my opinion that Paimon dies and not join the harem.

The death of all demon Lords means the end of the world.

So to save the world you must perform the absolutely "necessary evil" of massacring his way to Victory. Kumo would definitely agree with him.

Better to end half the life on the planet than risk ending it all.
That's why it's called a necessary evil

cadu_ · 2016-09-28, 17:12

The problem with Paimon is her love towards humans, it came to the point she places the humans above her own kind in her heart.
The reason Barbatos hates the humans and wants to start wars so much for their territory is because the demons live in the worst lands of the continent while the humans live in the best ones. Barbatos wants to take human territory to improve the living conditions of the demon race while Paimon think the demons should just put up with it and live in their own corner of the continent.
Thats why i dont like Paimon.

Darius Drake · 2016-09-28, 18:58

Honestly, I'm curious as what the difference between Humans and Demons are. Not Demon Lords, we know that Demon Lords are "special" due to being sentient masses of Magical Energy, just the normal, general Demons.

Because, honestly, the only differences I see are either cultural or biological, and Demons have enough diversity both biologically and culturally that Humans could be considered just breed of Demons which is weak but breeds and develops relatively quickly.

cadu_ · 2016-09-28, 19:44

Biological and cultural differences is already enough to make them go to war and hate each other, nothing good happens when 2 cultures clash.
As for the reason such a thing doesnt happen among demons even thought they have many different tribes and culture is because of the Demon Lords, the demons are united under the Demon Lords thats why they dont usually war each other because of the tribe or culture differences.

wuhugm · 2016-09-28, 22:08

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Originally Posted by Darius Drake

Honestly, I'm curious as what the difference between Humans and Demons are. Not Demon Lords, we know that Demon Lords are "special" due to being sentient masses of Magical Energy, just the normal, general Demons.

Because, honestly, the only differences I see are either cultural or biological, and Demons have enough diversity both biologically and culturally that Humans could be considered just breed of Demons which is weak but breeds and develops relatively quickly.

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One Demon Lord died

But till now I'm still confused... What is demon exactly? They behave just like human in this novel... No peculiar fighting style... It's basically human renamed as demon...

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^Here full version

Like I told you, truly best girl

But I still pissed demons being treated like humans.

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Been wondering from the start but, both humans and demons worship Greek Gods eh? Why Greek Gods?

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^Margrave saw devil behind loli, now he realized it's Dantalian

So Dantalian and Elizabeth are equally crazy lol~

Weird that the demons under Dantalian behaves just like humans... It seems only the appearance is different...

Exactly what I've been thinking from the start

This novel treats 1 human = 1 demon

No "demon specialized" war strategy

It just feels like human vs human

Where's the troll and shit?

Xellos-_^ · 2016-09-29, 00:18

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Where's the troll and shit?

where is the dungeon.

i like the story but seriously the title is DUNGEON defense. So WHERE IS THE DUNGEON?

ggyeti · 2016-09-29, 01:04

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Originally Posted by wuhugm

Exactly what I've been thinking from the start

This novel treats 1 human = 1 demon

No "demon specialized" war strategy

It just feels like human vs human

Where's the troll and shit?

Yea the author doesn't seem too enthusiastic to go into detail with the battles/strategy in general but just keeps it simple. Since this is not a senki series and not the main focus it is understandable but would be great if we saw how exactly he utilised the centaurs/trolls/Dwarves for example and what advantage/disadvantage they have against normal human forces and so on.

Come to think of it he even mentioned magic bolts when describing crosswbowmen in volume 2 but never really built up on that.

Right, and about the whole Demon thing the only thing we really know about them is that they are just a concentration of magic energy, but he never really goes in detail what benefit that has? Like they bleed normally and die normally just like humans. I guess they do live longer but we still almost know nothing about them.

cabman11 · 2016-09-29, 01:18

It might be mazoku type not demon akuma type

wuhugm · 2016-09-29, 01:26

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It might be mazoku type not demon akuma type

??? You meant mamono.

So?

There's succubus race. Where's the strategy utilizing succubus?

In the beginning Dantalian used golem or was it ogre?

Where are those now?

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Yea the author doesn't seem too enthusiastic to go into detail with the battles/strategy in general but just keeps it simple. Since this is not a senki series and not the main focus it is understandable but would be great if we saw how exactly he utilised the centaurs/trolls/Dwarves for example and what advantage/disadvantage they have against normal human forces and so on.

Come to think of it he even mentioned magic bolts when describing crosswbowmen in volume 2 but never really built up on that.

Right, and about the whole Demon thing the only thing we really know about them is that they are just a concentration of magic energy, but he never really goes in detail what benefit that has? Like they bleed normally and die normally just like humans. I guess they do live longer but we still almost know nothing about them.

Exactly

The only ones feel like unique unit are the witches. But the human also has mages.

So what the hell is the difference?

Btw, the one made of mana is Demon Lords, not Demons

ggyeti · 2016-09-29, 01:26

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Originally Posted by cabman11

It might be mazoku type not demon akuma type

Hmm, thats my guess too. They seem to be a normal type though that have almost nothing going for them even though they're made up of 魔力

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Exactly

The only ones feel like unique unit are the witches. But the human also has mages.

So what the hell is the difference?

Right right the witches too, it was said that they only sold their soul and don't age anymore but thats it. Abilitywise nothing else was mentioned.

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Btw, the one made of mana is Demon Lords, not Demons

Oh yea my bad its only the Demon Lords

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kaikalaila · 2016-09-29, 07:13

Guess Paimon will deserve whatever punishment in the future...

About Demon Lords, is the number of Lords 72 being the limit base on the Ars Goetia or that Dantalian 'strength' is the lowest point?

ChuckE · 2016-09-29, 07:41

Do we have ending spoilers? Are there differences between LN and WN versions?

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That's old material. The TL has mentioned that this is the third version of the novel. Second in LN format, with the first being the Web novel.

What the hell. So what version is currently being translated?

Also MC is really less lucky that his father. I mean as far as I remember he had one yandere but around MC we've got a bunch of psychos.

cabman11 · 2016-09-29, 10:46

I'm sure it's more like this. The demon Lords are literally nuclear reactors but they can't even harness up single percent of their power.

If not they're probably really powerful if they could access all their power.
I mean they apparently have enough power to affect the life and death of the world

wuhugm · 2016-09-29, 10:52

^No strategic weapons here though?

Xacual · 2016-09-29, 13:08

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Originally Posted by ChuckE

Do we have ending spoilers? Are there differences between LN and WN versions?

What the hell. So what version is currently being translated?

Also MC is really less lucky that his father. I mean as far as I remember he had one yandere but around MC we've got a bunch of psychos.

Like the post you quoted said, the translated version is the third version of the novel.

ChuckE · 2016-09-29, 14:47

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Originally Posted by Xacual

Like the post you quoted said, the translated version is the third version of the novel.

So the third is not a LN? Or third and second are both novels? I wonder how release went...

Breimn · 2016-09-29, 14:58

1° WN 2° LN but got axed because reasons 3 °LN but improved and rewritten with new developments
I think translator clearly stated difference somewhere but dont wanna go looking through his posts.

rantaid · 2016-09-29, 21:31

anyone know what caused the Black Death Plague? i seems to missed them.

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wuhugm Confused Shark Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Atlantis	^^Farnese suffered more! Soiled by her own father! Paimon what!? She suffered because her own choices! Enslaved by Dantalian is already the best treatment for her! __________________ ------------------------------------------ [SPOILER] Manga, Anime, & LN Where The Girl MC Ended Up With Is Not The Main Heroine All My Threads

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cadu_ Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014	The problem with Paimon is her love towards humans, it came to the point she places the humans above her own kind in her heart. The reason Barbatos hates the humans and wants to start wars so much for their territory is because the demons live in the worst lands of the continent while the humans live in the best ones. Barbatos wants to take human territory to improve the living conditions of the demon race while Paimon think the demons should just put up with it and live in their own corner of the continent. Thats why i dont like Paimon. __________________

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cadu_ Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014	Biological and cultural differences is already enough to make them go to war and hate each other, nothing good happens when 2 cultures clash. As for the reason such a thing doesnt happen among demons even thought they have many different tribes and culture is because of the Demon Lords, the demons are united under the Demon Lords thats why they dont usually war each other because of the tribe or culture differences. __________________

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cabman11 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	It might be mazoku type not demon akuma type __________________ "The goal of all life is death" - ainz ooal gown

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cabman11 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	I'm sure it's more like this. The demon Lords are literally nuclear reactors but they can't even harness up single percent of their power. If not they're probably really powerful if they could access all their power. I mean they apparently have enough power to affect the life and death of the world __________________ "The goal of all life is death" - ainz ooal gown

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Darius Drake Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Australia	Honestly, I'm curious as what the difference between Humans and Demons are. Not Demon Lords, we know that Demon Lords are "special" due to being sentient masses of Magical Energy, just the normal, general Demons. Because, honestly, the only differences I see are either cultural or biological, and Demons have enough diversity both biologically and culturally that Humans could be considered just breed of Demons which is weak but breeds and develops relatively quickly.

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kaikalaila Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014	Guess Paimon will deserve whatever punishment in the future... About Demon Lords, is the number of Lords 72 being the limit base on the Ars Goetia or that Dantalian 'strength' is the lowest point?

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wuhugm Confused Shark Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Atlantis	^No strategic weapons here though? __________________ ------------------------------------------ [SPOILER] Manga, Anime, & LN Where The Girl MC Ended Up With Is Not The Main Heroine All My Threads

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Breimn Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015	1° WN 2° LN but got axed because reasons 3 °LN but improved and rewritten with new developments I think translator clearly stated difference somewhere but dont wanna go looking through his posts.

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rantaid Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Indonesia	anyone know what caused the Black Death Plague? i seems to missed them. __________________ http://www.fanfiction.net/u/2496168/Rantaid https://www.fictionpress.com/~rantaid I like Netorare.