High School DxD Light Novel - Character Speculation/Theories: Issei's Harem

[Chichiryuushintei]

I still don't see anything that indicates Ise gives half a shit about being a politician besides
"He'll be one of the strongest, so of course he'll become a Maou"

[Armando99]

I for one am not saying that he want's to become one. I'm arguing that he could, someday.

It is often said that "one does not know when you will be called to serve". It is up to that person to make that choice. If in the future, Issei was put into this position, what do you think he would do?

Just like Zirzechs and Ajuka Belzebub - sama, they became Maous because they had to.

[Somethindarker]

Sairorg does command respect with his presence even Issei himself who's a dragon couldn't help but admire him and want to be like him. All his followers respect him wholeheartedly and the people of his house, who aren't against him, are loyal to the end. Issei on the other hand is treated, with respect mind you, but not because of who he is or his mind but because he happens to be a Sekiryuutei all his future followers are more fans of his caricature on the show than who he is once they meet him they're quick to figure he's just a perv who happens to be powerful. Like it's been said the current Maou's are probably going to be the last ones of their time since the devil world is changing into a more human society of governing where people with merit are chosen to lead not just powerful ones.

[Archilla]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Even you must realize why that was.

The fact is people arent impressed with Issei hyodou they're impressed with the Red Dragon Emperor and there is a heavy distinction between the two and that distinction is why Issei doesnt deserve to be a Maou.

Dayum. Even me? No need for hostility.


I just think it's weird we draw the line like that. Separating one from the other doesn't make any sense to me. Issei just has that kind of personality that people are empowered by. Just because people aren't impressed with his stature or casual mannerisms doesn't mean anything. It's his personality that makes people, children, and leaders love him. And I'd say personality and what people think of you is the most important part of presence.

To stipulate, I don't want him to be a Maou.

[BlackWyvern]

IM really starting to wonder what the all has to do with his HAREM.

Could you keep the Maou discussion to Discussion about Other Topics?!

[Chichiryuushintei]

Originally Posted by Armando99

Just like Zirzechs and Ajuka Belzebub - sama, they became Maous because they had to.

lol
Ajuka became a Maou because Sirzechs did so. He doesn't give half a shit about being a Maou. (but he'll still do his job).

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

guys move the Maou discussion to the other topics thread please

[Biohazardous]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

The fact remains that is a big deal to him and he does not want to be a Maou because of it, also he just wants to be a pervert and have fun being a Maou wouldn't allow it with all the meeting and stuff.





Yea to people that know him personally, everyone else that doesn't or have only heard of his rep respond the same way. "Oh THIS is the Sekiryuutei? pfft." <- That is the response to people with moderate political or physical power and the people that matter. He can be popular with the kids and normal devils all he wants but the movers and shakers would end up using him and making him his puppet because he doesn't know any better.

There is a distinct difference between someone like Sairorg or Sirzechs who's presence commands respect even from people who have no idea who he is and people like Issei whose presence is so weak that everyone around him underestimates him.

Ise is very much a part of the Red Emperor now. His ways have taken the name and brought it waaay down. So much so it Affect Ddraig. Ise is now going to take that name to heights greater than it once was. Despite all that has happen even Ddraig knows there is much to learn from Ise. He even admitted to Albion at their first meeting he had already learned something. Also as far as presence commanding respect. Ise hasn't been a devil long we have all reminded each other of this. Before things are settle you can believe the presence he gives off will command respect. I think he will be the type that has you looking around wondering what's coming before he can be seen from around the corner.

Originally Posted by Armando99

Have you guys forgotten that Ddraig himself told Issei 'you are the best of all the SC possessors I've ever had" (or something to this nature)? Why do you think he asked the Dragon God and the True Dragon to help him when he died instead of just moving on to the next possessor?

Was there anyone else in the past who could bring out the true power of Ddraig without paying the ultimate price? Some of you underestimate him too much. Yes He was a nobody prior to his rebirth, but he has gone a long ways. The three leaders of the alliance are all impressed by him. Even a Goddess from another dimension. Yes he is still wet behind the ears, so to speak, but he is young and he has a lot of time to "grow up" specially with Rias and Sensei by his side.

Sairaorg commanding presence and respect? You must be joking right. Beside Zirsechs who on the high class devils respect him now?. ALL those high class devils who supported him all left after he lost to Issei. All of them just wanted to jump on the bandwagon as long as he was the strongest and as long as they could use him. And he even acknowledge this which made him more determined to change the status quo.

Using the reason that he can't have a harem if he become a Maou is ridiculous. I don't remember where it was written in stone that you can't have a harem if you are one. EVEN if it is, Zirsechs has already said that the "young one's" will change devil society forever. And he noted that the "dragons ", meaning Issei and others, will be foremost of them all.

What Ddraig did for Ise impacted me deeply. It is what cementing me caring more for the development of Ise and Ddraig's relationship over any other relationship. What he did can't really be expressed in words imo. He could have sat back and waited for his next host thinking well that was fun. If Ddraig loses Ise somehow I think he would sink into a depression he wouldn't be able to come out of.

I personally don't think they will ever separate though. They will always be around each other. (I said it like that because we had a what if convo before about if Ddraig and Albion could be removed from the gear.) What ever their life turns out to be they will more than likely go down together.

[Armando99]

Originally Posted by Somethindarker

Sairorg does command respect with his presence even Issei himself who's a dragon couldn't help but admire him and want to be like him. All his followers respect him wholeheartedly and the people of his house, who aren't against him, are loyal to the end. Issei on the other hand is treated, with respect mind you, but not because of who he is or his mind but because he happens to be a Sekiryuutei all his future followers are more fans of his caricature on the show than who he is once they meet him they're quick to figure he's just a perv who happens to be powerful. Like it's been said the current Maou's are probably going to be the last ones of their time since the devil world is changing into a more human society of governing where people with merit are chosen to lead not just powerful ones.

I must have missed where it was said that he still has the support of his house. I agree about his servants/peerage. He was only "allowed" to be the head of the Bael family because of his brute strength but when that proved to be "beatable", that support vanished. We have to remember that the Bael family requires the head to have the power of destruction. Only Sairaorg in their entire history has been appointed as heir without that. In the end, it would probably be his younger brother who will end up as the actual head as he grows stronger with that power of destruction. Besides, the younger brother already has the support of the current head and probably most of the entire clan.

Are you actually reading the same story as everyone else? How about that Lirenko kid, what do you think Issei's impact was on him? How about those kids in the school bus when the monsters attacked the Underworld? Weren't they singing for the Oppai Dragon to come save them because of that unquestionable belief that he would do so? Issei might be a pervert but you know what? this pervert already knows the meaning of responsibility and is willing to shoulder it despite the harm it might do to him. That my friend is why everyone he meets admire him.

[KnightShade]

with her arrival in dxd born, anyone hoping kuroka gets her own volume? she needs to be in the harem asap(officially)

[Tbolt]

She and her sister will be getting the spot light in the near future, but as far as a spot in the harem I think it is still up in the air. She may fall in the category of a Local wife.

[Chichiryuushintei]

Originally Posted by kidstandout

with her arrival in dxd born, anyone hoping kuroka gets her own volume? she needs to be in the harem asap(officially)

After next one (Vali's) I think the author will make one to focus on the 4 main girls aka Rias, Asia (Haters gonna Hate), Akeno and Koneko each. He could use her on Koneko's Volume and kill 2 birds with one stone, since her development with Ise is tied to her relationship with Kuroka improving.


But since there's still one and a half Volumes untranslated, as well as the Dx.1, so I'm not really eager for future ones when I still need to catch up on the already released.

[KnightShade]

Originally Posted by Tbolt

She and her sister will be getting the spot light in the near future, but as far as a spot in the harem I think it is still up in the air. She may fall in the category of a Local wife.

que? if you mean F%$#buddy, you're probably right lol.

but yea i look forward to that volume, love me some kuroka!

Originally Posted by Chichiryuushintei

After next one (Vali's) I think the author will make one to focus on the 4 main girls aka Rias, Asia (Haters gonna Hate), Akeno and Koneko each. He could use her on Koneko's Volume and kill 2 birds with one stone, since her development with Ise is tied to her relationship with Kuroka improving.


But since there's still one and a half Volumes untranslated, as well as the Dx.1, so I'm not really eager for future ones when I still need to catch up on the already released.

that is possible, but the only ones that need another are akeno and koneko. rias and asia will continue to be front and center in the plot, but giving them another volume when rias has 3 and asia has 2 runs the risk of over-saturation, which has a bigger impact on asia because let's face it she's not a top 3 fan fave among the harem(top 5 is debatable). besides, le fay+kuroka+ophis+azazel+sona are all over due a volume when likes of gasper and rose manage to get one despite being less important to the plot overall

[Tbolt]

Originally Posted by kidstandout

que? if you mean F%$#buddy, you're probably right lol.

but yea i look forward to that volume, love me some kuroka!

No a Local wife is someone who has other Jobs {responsibilities). Like Kunou she will be a Local wife because she will have to live in Kyoto after she takes over from her mother.

[KnightShade]

Originally Posted by Tbolt

No a Local wife is someone who has other Jobs {responsibilities). Like Kunou she will be a Local wife because she will have to live in Kyoto after she takes over from her mother.

oh, that works too!

[Chichiryuushintei]

Originally Posted by kidstandout

que? if you mean F%$#buddy, you're probably right lol.

but yea i look forward to that volume, love me some kuroka!


that is possible, but the only ones that need another are akeno and koneko. rias and asia will continue to be front and center in the plot, but giving them another volume when rias has 3 and asia has 2 runs the risk of over-saturation, which has a bigger impact on asia because let's face it she's not a top 3 fan fave among the harem(top 5 is debatable). besides, le fay+kuroka+ophis+azazel+sona are all over due a volume when likes of gasper and rose manage to get one despite being less important to the plot overall

Le Fay needs a Volume ASAP, I agree, she and Bennia are the cute fangirls after all. You don't see that often.
Ophis would need if she was a harem candidate, but I don't really care if she isn't, she's fine as the cute girl who says cute stuff (I, was under for 10 minutes) from time to time.
Sona is out of question, she's not in the harem, and she will never be.
Azazel doesn't really need one, since he gets a lot of screentime in almost every Volume.


I said that because the author said in his blog he wants to make Volumes to focus on the first 4 harem members before (or was it after?) this arc ends.

It would only become oversaturated if their relationship doesn't develop. If he uses it to develop even further his relationship with Rias and Asia, then I'll love these Volumes for sure. Koneko would be super adorable and Ishibumi needs to give Akeno some development for me to recover from that SS in Grigori *shudders* , but it's going to be enjoyable nonetheless if they happen.

[Archilla]

Originally Posted by Chichiryuushintei

the author needs to give Akeno some development for me to recover from that SS in Grigori *shudders*

What are you talking about? Akeno wasn't in the Grigori SS. There was Issei and a big metal ball and some surgery and that's it.

Akeno never showed up, nor did her dad.

They didn't.

No.

[Chichiryuushintei]

Originally Posted by GDK1

What are you talking about? Akeno wasn't in the Grigori SS. There was Issei and a big metal ball and some surgery and that's it.

Akeno never showed up, nor did her dad.

They didn't.

No.

Maybe it was a disgusting and crazy dream I had... I can't seem to forget it, so another Volume with her being dere-dere would still help a lot.

[KnightShade]

Originally Posted by Chichiryuushintei

Le Fay needs a Volume ASAP, I agree, she and Bennia are the cute fangirls after all. You don't see that often.
Ophis would need if she was a harem candidate, but I don't really care if she isn't, she's fine as the cute girl who says cute stuff (I, was under for 10 minutes) from time to time.
Sona is out of question, she's not in the harem, and she will never be.
Azazel doesn't really need one, since he gets a lot of screentime in almost every Volume.


I said that because the author said in his blog he wants to make Volumes to focus on the first 4 harem members before (or was it after?) this arc ends.

It would only become oversaturated if their relationship doesn't develop. If he uses it to develop even further his relationship with Rias and Asia, then I'll love these Volumes for sure. Koneko would be super adorable and the author needs to give Akeno some development for me to recover from that SS in Grigori *shudders* , but it's going to be enjoyable nonetheless if they happen.

true

kiba and gasper aren't really part of the harem, and neither is vali. though i don't disagree that ophis works as she is. i say this because she could use some backstory fleshing.

i agree, but again she doesn't need to be in the harem to get a volume. i was just using her as a point that if lesser characters can get a volume, i wouldn't rule her or kuroka out.

all that screentime with azazel and we know nothing major about his past outside of vague details via second hand accounts. and again, if gasper(who's like a son to issei) can get a volume, why not azazel(who's like a father figure for issei, especially when it comes to echii lol)

if the author said that than whatever i guess, i just think that aside from more akeno and koneko fleshing, it would be a waste of a volume when so much of the supporting cast could use more screentime.

how much further can he really develop rias and asia at this point without them reaching their logical conclusion? rias is already his girlfriend and number one, and he has to wait to marry her till A. she finishes college B. he becomes high class. do we really need a volume around them going on dates when that could easily be shoved into a volume anyway? and with asia, he can't move any further with her before Rias. and lord knows most people don't want to read another damsel plot like the asia volumes of lor. if the authors has to do another volume with them, i would prefer if they delve deeper into asia's backstory(which is still one big question mark) while establishing her as the new orc prez or Rias's upbringing relation to sirzechs. you know, some uncharted territory.

[Tbolt]

Even though it was short both Rias and Asia's back stories were shown maby not in great detail but they were talked about. What do you mean that Kiba, Gasper and Vali are not in the harem, Ishibumi clearly stated that they are part of the male harem.