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They don't need to be irredeemably evil, just ruthless. For example, a warlord that burns a village down because he's determined thats the best way to hurt the enemy. Instead of the MC burning the village down because the village was conveniently evil.
There is actually a series that does that...saga of lion coeur...i thnk this is the only one ive seen where the author doesnt try to make excuses like "oh yea those girls were evil so the MC raped them". Unfortunately, the war scenes are badly written...the MC's faction has a fortress and their army is outnumbered, but for some reason they decided to engage the invading army on an open field instead of using the fortress? That just doesnt make sense...
And I liked Maou no hajimekata until the author started making excuses like "oh the kingdom was corrupt and starving its people, the MC improved things dramatically after taking over". Like, bruh...its just way too convenient of an excuse, same with Overlord....and Overlord has turned into a giant meme where the fanbase goes nuts praising Ainz as an amazing ruler that saved the kingdom, the lizardfolk, the dwarves and who knows what else...
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If I remember correctly Wortenia Senki also did the same. There is also Sex and dungeon where the protagonist levels up by having sex and so he brainwashes girls into loving him until
Sometime protagonists do ruthless things but it's more an exception than a rule. And almost invariably the net result of their actions is positive, even if they are stated to be evil.