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Old 2020-03-07, 09:01   Link #5349
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Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix View Post
The general assumption, as to why they don't exist as an organization i, /Fate, seems to be, that they can never form their organization in a world where Servants exist. All the Church and the Mage association would have to do is summoning a Servant to take care of them.
And yet , there is a gaping hole in this argument in the form of Ilyasviel von Einzbern:
When she summoned Berserker, a few months before the grail war even started, she had to supply all the mana he used on her own.
Now from the original VN, we know that Ilya originally wasn't very close to Herakles at all and in fact kind of hated him as every single move he made caused her enormous pain.
Now, lets keep in mind that we aren't talking about a Magi with a normal amount of Mana here, but Ilya, whose circuits shocked even some talented mages.
A few things to note:
  • As a Berserker, he naturally takes more mana than normal Servants.
  • As Heracles, he's a top tier Servant, so his mana requirements are likely much higher (this is why Gilgamesh summoned "weaker" Servants for the most part in Babylonia, because otherwise he wouldn't have the mana to sustain them).
  • Fate/Zero showed that magi can pool their mana for a single Servant.

Also, we know that humans who go on to become Heroic Spirits have the ability to kill DA. I know we got a short story where Dantes killed one or two of them, for example.

That's not to say DA don't exist, they just never organized.
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