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Grande and Odin biggest trial is to grind their Unknown weapons (less severe on Odin).
And Unknown weapons can only be gotten from events right now, so it can be dead or alive on some elements.
Since both of them boost your normal Multiplier, having none of the Unknown give you more severe drop in output as opposed to the same situation in Magna setup for instance.
If you live with Grande, not only you need to grind one for each element...you need to have 5 sets ideally.
Odin only need 3, and you are mostly using it for Dark so it's less severe excluding the fact there are only 2 kinds of dark Unknown and they had pretty low drop rate on their respective events (and I doubt they gonna recap/revive back the event of those later so it's probably a moot point)
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