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Old 2015-02-02, 09:05   Link #45
Jan-Poo
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: forever lost inside a logic error
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Originally Posted by Yan3242 View Post
So basically they are just lazy unmotivated bunch? They keep sulking and sulking looking at those "comfort" group while keep saying "why?"
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Originally Posted by DQueenie13 View Post
I think Jan-Poo was trying to say that they're not necessarily lazy, it's that even if/when they tried working, there was no benefit from it because those who had the advantages first milked it for all they had.
As DQueenie said, notice that nobody talked about "leechers" in the assembly, just people that either didn't acquire any teachings nor managed to get special recipes. That's the issue.

Moreover Honesty first proposal wasn't to give free money but to make public those things, and if they were to do that, no one would get any benefit unless they put them to fruition by working.

Of course publicizing the teachings was a naive idea since they work only for the person who learned, but giving more information about them could help, we have seen how hard it was for Akatsuki to get one precisely because she had no idea how to get it.

The problem of the new crafting recipes then is a very complicated issue. They have stated that it is basically a trial and error system. That means a certain investment is required in order to find one. The three major crafting guilds are probably trying various combinations and the materials involved are probably costly and rare. An error would result in a complete loss of said materials, but that loss is compensated if in the end you get something new that you can sell as the sole provider.

But that's something that only someone who is rich to begin with can do. You need someone who can afford an initial loss and the three major guilds have no problems with that. For someone with just a moderate amount of money an initial loss would mean wasting all his funds and then he wouldn't even have enough money to buy new materials to try a new recipe.

It's the same old story, who has money can make even more money, and the more they become rich, the more they will get money.

But at the same time the major three guilds are not willing to publicize their findings, precisely because they have invested money in them and they don't think it would be fair they wouldn't get a return on that, especially because that would likely remove their motivation to experiment.

This is not a simple issue to solve, if it was Shiroe would have found a solution already.


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Originally Posted by Tenzen12 View Post
Nah, "real food" became for sure naturaly pretty cheap by now, not mention every bigger guild have at least one cook and it's members have either food for free or with discount. But even without it it's nothing that couldn't be solved by few low level mobs.
How do you even know what's the cost of that food? But even supposing that it's true that it's cheap, then it's even less of a problem to provide it for everyone.
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