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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA
Again, what exactly are you using as reference? The Realta Nua ending?
What exactly makes you so sure it's exclusively for Fate? Why are you assuming the worst for Saber in UBW? She wasn't seen again after the Grail was destroyed because she wasn't the focus for the route. All that means is that we can't tell what happens to her.
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Spoiler for UBW Ending:
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Originally Posted by UBW Ending
-The Holy Grail is breaking down.
The thing she sought, the thing that should have saved her. She destroyed it with her own hands and finally realized her mistake.
One boy and one hero.
The man that got twisted at the end of his ideal was still a boy.
His regrets are so heavy they cannot all be carried. His crimes are so deep they cannot be atoned for. But there was something he did not give up on. The knight in red finally arrived at an answer at the very end.
Then - she has to move forward as well.
The end where she took her hands off the sword. She will run past that hill with her own will.
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So this is the scene where Saber disappears. Like I said before, they try to make it seem like Saber comes to the same conclusion as she did in Fate, but its fundamentally different. In UBW, the only thing she comes to realize is that if you hold tight to your ideals until the end, you'll eventually find some sort of peace, and I'm not even really sure how she came to that conclusion. In Fate, its a very clear struggle between Shirou and Saber's opposing opinions, and in the end Saber gives up on her wish as she realizes its
wrong. She learns to accept reality and move on.
Both routes end up with the same basic outcome, but the route that they take to get there is completely different.
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You want to talk about shoehorning? How about Shirou's constant browbeating about how girls shouldn't fight in the Fate route?
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As was discussed on just the last page, this was a tell towards a fundamental flaw in Shirou's character and one of the main pieces that made up his persona. It was a very relevant and pervading plot point in all three routes. It wasn't even close to being shoehorned in, it was literally one of the central themes of the entire work.
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Originally Posted by Reckoner
This is why I find type-moon so funny to talk about, people endlessly debating the same shit for nearly a decade haha.
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Got nothing else to do until the anime comes out, so might as well, right?
